The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

TrickyTree83

scott_lithgows wrote: »

And if you read my previous posts you will realise that I am respecting the 2014 result "for a generation" if you can see the future in 2030 then just tell us the lottery numbers for next week and I.ll be living in a warmer country then and won't get a vote.

So if a 2nd indy ref comes around we can assume you'll vote No on the basis that you're honouring the 2014 result?

Not because of the economic data?

antrobus

kabayiri wrote: »

...There is no rulebook which says that the current consumption model we have is the only viable one..

What "current consumption model"? Do you mean the one where people chose for themselves what they consume? What are you suggesting is the alternative?

kabayiri wrote: »

...As an example, many families in Denmark manage just fine with one car in the family. ...

What's Denmark got to do with it? Does Denmark have a low car ownership, and does it have anything to do with the 150% registration tax.

kabayiri wrote: »

...That's just one major expense. There must be other areas where state spend could be cut dramatically.

The state spends money on private cars? I missed that one.

kabayiri wrote: »

...As an outside observer it would be interesting to see iScotland develop. I'm sure there will be those in the EU curious to see how the UK changes outside the Union too.

As an outside observer it is interesting to see Greece develop. I'm not convinced it's that pleasant if you happen to be Greek. To be living in interesting times is an old Chinese curse, and not a blessing.

beecher2

Anyone know anyone who was a Yes voter, voted Leave and is now No? Seems from the Panelbase poll that there are the key group to get onside if Scotland is to become independent. I'd love to see some videos describing their journey as it is difficult for me to get my head round - wanting Scotland to be independent but believing that leaving the EU is more important.

I'd really like to understand the reasons as the only SNP Leavers I know did so because they want Scotland to have control of all its levers and are still Yes voters.

elantan

I know a few Beecher,

beecher2

elantan wrote: »

I know a few Beecher,

Do they give any reasons why?

Enterprise_1701C

elantan wrote: »

Where is the proof that Scotland wants control of the UK economy and and foreign policy ?

My understanding is the Yes campaign want control of Scotland''s economy and foreign policy , unless your suggesting rUK is incapable of controlling these things ?

The simple fact that they said they wanted to use their non-existent veto over leaving the EU. If that is not trying to control some foreign policy and the entire UK economy what is?

kabayiri

antrobus wrote: »

What "current consumption model"? Do you mean the one where people chose for themselves what they consume? What are you suggesting is the alternative?
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One where items are priced according to total cost of ownership over a lifetime of use, rather than a fashion approach which says we upgrade our iphone every 2 years.

Scots could make more of what they consume themselves. Where is it written that they can not do this?

It's just things would be more expensive and you consume less.

Or do you think they should just carry on as now and ignore the any deficit?

kabayiri

antrobus wrote: »

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As an outside observer it is interesting to see Greece develop. I'm not convinced it's that pleasant if you happen to be Greek. To be living in interesting times is an old Chinese curse, and not a blessing.

Indeed so, neither good or bad

But it's still interesting !

I daresay some EU observers will find Brexit interesting, in just the same way.

Shakethedisease

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

The simple fact that they said they wanted to use their non-existent veto over leaving the EU. If that is not trying to control some foreign policy and the entire UK economy what is?

Nooooo lol. Sturgeon never claimed a veto for the whole UK. Newspaper headlines looking for misinformed and OTT reactions like you just posted did.

So you can leave that nonsense to the side.

elantan

beecher2 wrote: »

Do they give any reasons why?

Yes and no .. some say they have changed their mind other 's say they want out the EU ... even had one say Scotland is becoming too left wing for him ... I can see that point to be fair, the right wing of Scotland don't seem to be represented by the Yes movement