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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • Thrugelmir
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    edited 20 January 2017 at 9:37PM
    elantan wrote: »
    I highly doubt that

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    Nick Robinson spears 'DELUDED' Salmond over IndyRef 2 claims in brutal BBC interview

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/756618/Nick-Robinson-spears-Alex-Salmond-Scottish-independence-claims

    Oh dear.........

    Seems that Salmond got his comeuppance. After this
    Alex Salmond: Nick Robinson referendum coverage was a 'disgrace'

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11819074/Alex-Salmond-Nick-Robinson-referendum-coverage-was-a-disgrace.html

    You make your own bed and must sleep in it.
  • Shakethedisease
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    edited 20 January 2017 at 10:42PM
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:



    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/756618/Nick-Robinson-spears-Alex-Salmond-Scottish-independence-claims

    Oh dear.........

    Seems that Salmond got his comeuppance. After this



    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11819074/Alex-Salmond-Nick-Robinson-referendum-coverage-was-a-disgrace.html

    You make your own bed and must sleep in it.

    I've just listened to the interview in full actually. Seemed pretty run of the mill stuff on the whole. Salmond did correct Robinson on the Euro issue as Robinson spoke as if it was an inevitiability ( incorrect). The polls Robinson made out that indy support was falling. Salmond corrected him with this too.

    Addressed with the now yawningly inevitable leaving the never heard of before June 2016 'UK single market' question. Salmond then made the point about England exporting more to Scotland than they do to the USA ( a point no doubt we'll be hearing a lot more of )..and look at how desperate and fawning Johnson and May are to maintain trade links there ? Which seemed a fair enough point to me, because they are. Robinson then said Salmond didn't seem very confident about winning a second ref. Salmond denied it.

    They moved onto Trump for a the last few moments then that was that. Was a good listen. Nothing too car crashy from Salmond or Robinson, though I doubt Robinson was happy about Salmonds introducing facts to the BBC zinger. But at least most of indy supporting twitter found it funny ;)
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Wow the SNP tactics now resemble those of an African dictatorship.

    Dr Paul Monaghan SNP tweeted the following. Note the quotation marks which suggest a directl link the comments to Prime Minister May.

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/snp-mps-fake-news/

    How much longer can we allow such spiteful untruths go unchallenged!!
    Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind. - Albert Einstein.

    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.”-

    Orwell.
  • Hintza
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    This is what the Fraser of Allander Institute thinks of the Scottish Government (referencing their budget)
    And the selective data that the government presents often appears designed to support their arguments rather than to help inform debate.

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-accused-of-skewing-budget-figures-to-exaggerate-cuts-1-4342594

    Everything the SNP do is designed to prop up their tired arguments via smoke and mirrors. The SNP Government in Scotland is seen as a joke from Reykjavik to Budapest.

    They are an utter embarrassment everything they touch turns to dust.
  • Hintza wrote: »
    This is what the Fraser of Allander Institute thinks of the Scottish Government (referencing their budget)
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-accused-of-skewing-budget-figures-to-exaggerate-cuts-1-4342594

    Everything the SNP do is designed to prop up their tired arguments via smoke and mirrors. The SNP Government in Scotland is seen as a joke from Reykjavik to Budapest.

    They are an utter embarrassment everything they touch turns to dust.
    Am afraid the alternatives are Scottish Labour who want to raise income taxes and write up a new Treaty of Union ( but their UK party doesn't). The 'Ruth Davidson party' who have no perceivable policies on anything at all apart from stopping a second independence referendum. Or the Scottish Lib Dems who cannot ever support a second referendum as it was decisive and not to be repeated.. but are absolutely gagging for and want second referendum asap on Brexit.

    Carping from the sidelines Hintza. They need to provide alternatives for Scots to vote for. Moaning and groaning about the SNP doesn't make for policies people want to vote on. Nor budgets and alternatives to them.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • elantan
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    Oh hold on ... it was the big man interviewed by Robinson ?

    And people expect me to believe Robinson got the better of the big man ?

    Aye OK then ... Robinson ain't fit to tie his shoes ... I don't even need to watch it ... although I will cause I like to listen to Robinson getting put in his place
  • Shakethedisease
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    edited 21 January 2017 at 2:34AM
    elantan wrote: »
    Oh hold on ... it was the big man interviewed by Robinson ?

    And people expect me to believe Robinson got the better of the big man ?

    Aye OK then ... Robinson ain't fit to tie his shoes ... I don't even need to watch it ... although I will cause I like to listen to Robinson getting put in his place

    There's a monologue report from Sarah Smith first going on about how Sturgeon might have backed herself into a corner, how the polls haven't changed much etc etc

    Audible sigh from Robinson then he kicks off the interview with Salmond saying :-

    "Sooooo where did it all go wrong ?". :think:

    Hague and Whyte going mad trying to find out where Cherry and Salmond are quoting their stats from. Cherry was pretty precise though and wasn't quoting 2014 numbers either. Weird to see them both in the reverse position to their usual. It's usually places like Wings, Common Space, Scotgoespop etc on the back foot having to debunk or clarify stuff like this. Lessons learned from 2014 perhaps.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Hintza
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    An article from Keep Britain United that echoes my sentiments
    IGNORE NICOLA STURGEON'S SWAGGER –2017 IS THE YEAR THE SNP WILL REAP THE WHIRLWIND

    Nicola Sturgeon notched up another astonishing achievement this week when she began a regular weekly column for the Daily Record, until recently Scotland’s biggest-selling newspaper, and also an everlasting supporter of the Labour Party: it even backed Jeremy Corbyn for leader. Seeing Sturgeon’s face splashed across its pages has been a severe jolt for the Record’s loyal Labour readers many of whom will dump them.

    But the Sturgeon Stupidity is something that most Scots, and not just Labour supporters, have had to get used to in recent years. She thinks she is mistress of all she surveys in her party; in command of a government and Assembly with an array of powers (with more on the way) undreamed of when Holyrood got going 18 years ago; and is never off Scotland’s TV screens,which we are sick of.

    Unfortunately for the Scottish First Minister, the political horizon is much gloomier than it seems. Sure, she continues to talk vaguely about another independence referendum on the back of Brexit, but the problem is that the majority of Scots don’t want one. Indeed it’s growing clearer by the day that in several respects Ms Sturgeon is using the threat of indyref2, as it’s called, as cover for her many substantial failings in important domestic policy areas,and destruction of Scotland.

    In fact, if she can’t maintain the threat of constitutional mayhem, 2017 – the Scottish National Party’s 10th year in power – may turn into her very own annus horribilis. From its astonishingly high water mark of 2015 when, one year after its referendum defeat, it won every single seat in Scotland bar three, Sturgeon and her SNP are, ironically, paying a heavy price in voter popularity precisely because they’ve got many of the powers they’d campaigned and moaned for over the decades and are still totally clueless about how to use the old/new powers properly.

    So the SNP is now in charge of business rates which are going through the roof north of the border; on income tax it is refusing to pass on the higher rate reductions applying in the rest of the UK, allowing Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson to accuse Ms Sturgeon yesterday of presiding over the highest taxed part of the country and business devoid Region in the UK..
  • mayonnaise
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    Hintza wrote: »
    An article from Keep Britain United that echoes my sentiments

    It's always good forum practice to include a link to source.
    For example, in this case, an article by Alan Cochrane in the Telegraph.
    Thank You.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/20/ignore-nicola-sturgeons-swagger-2017-year-snp-will-reap-whirlwind/
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • mayonnaise wrote: »
    It's always good forum practice to include a link to source.
    For example, in this case, an article by Alan Cochrane in the Telegraph.
    Thank You.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/20/ignore-nicola-sturgeons-swagger-2017-year-snp-will-reap-whirlwind/
    In the Telegraph behind a paywall ? Sheesh and they say the SNP are preaching to the converted in an echo chamber.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
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