The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shakethedisease

@Zagubov

Yes, from the language Sturgeon has in her 'New Year's message'.. it does look like EFTA is going to be pitched strongly. Is a no brainer in any hypothetical second referendum for bringing those Yes to No voters back on board. While still keeping what most would see as the EU benefits.

"We are determined that Scotland's vote to remain in the European Union will be respected and that people in Scotland retain as many of the benefits of EU membership as possible, including the freedom to work, travel and study in other member states.”

Dugdale has lost the plot given how many Labour voters voted to Remain in the EU.

“Being part of the UK is even more important to Scotland than staying in the EU and Labour will campaign with everything we have to protect that relationship across our isles.”

Rennie has also lost it big time

Meantime, Liberal Democrat leader Willie Rennie also decried any prospect of a second independence referendum ...Declaring Liberal Democrats were the only party that was “pro UK, pro EU and progressive,” he added: “My colleagues and I will make the powerful case for a Brexit Deal Referendum on the terms of the deal

This is glorious on LabourHame for anyone interested in reading.

Secondly, you need to live up to the ‘Scottish Labour’ name and become an actual party, or drop it and campaign proudly as plain Labour. We need to know who’s in charge, and even those of us who pay attention just don’t.

As things stand your candidates for First Minister will have a leader in another nation to whom they answer and who is unaffected by decisions here. If you have a notion of our nation as having its own unique needs, that situation is ultimately untenable regardless of the qualities of the leaders involved.

http://labourhame.com/sort-yourselves-out-please/

As is this by McKenna.

Senior party figures I’ve spoken to recently feel their only hope of staving off electoral annihilation at the council elections is to embrace Unionism as much as the Tories...

...Its only chance of maintaining any foothold in Glasgow lies in the council leader Frank McAveety going it alone and using his considerable authority to ignore the dead hand of the Edinburgh leadership and begin to do what Labour does best: oppose the forces of Conservatism.

Ironically, Labour’s internal polling indicates that the long-term survival of the party in Scotland can only be guaranteed by independence. Councillor McAveety should make his peace with this concept early in the New Year and thus give himself one last chance of staving off disaster in May.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14995832.Kevin_McKenna__A_tale_of_torment_for_Scottish_Labour_in_the_coming_year/

Happy New Year when it comes everyone and thanks for putting up with me here. I had devastating news about my mother a few weeks ago so is going to be a worrying next few months ahead. Bantering back and forth here takes my mind off it all a bit. Thank you and see you all in 2017.

Enterprise_1701C

Best wishes for your mother Shakey xx

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Happy New Year when it comes everyone and thanks for putting up with me here. I had devastating news about my mother a few weeks ago so is going to be a worrying next few months ahead. Bantering back and forth here takes my mind off it all a bit. Thank you and see you all in 2017.

very sorry to hear about your mother and wish for the best outcome: in the end nothing is more important than family and friends

antrobus

Thrugelmir wrote: »

It's straight out of the SNP handbook of stock phrases.

Of course it is.:)

Our SNP propagandist does not understand the so-called Barnett formula. The application of the Barnett formula will mean that over time, the current level of the subsidy Scotland enjoys will reduce, and eventually become zero. Google 'Barnett squeeze'.

Besides, it's the other way around, the instant Scotland gets independence it loses the subsidy, and has to find £8 billion from somewhere. Well, maybe not £8 billion, but enough to make sure the fiscal deficit is a little bit less than 10% of GDP. Any hypothetically independent Scotland is going to have to fight hard to maintain the value of the Scottish pound. Given that all it's debt will be in a foreign currency.:)

molerat

And meanwhile back in la-la land the cash strapped and under fire Police Scotland is to undergo yet another "re-brand".

http://www.insidemoray.com/poileas-alba-new-branding-and-language-lessons-for-police/

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/police-scotland-unveil-plans-to-embrace-gaelic-language-1-4327698

Interesting map as to where the language is actually spoken / understood !

Glad to see some of my 7% (on top of any other annual increase they decide upon) council tax increase (which was to be spent on education but was just another Sturgeon porky to justify taxing the "rich") will be spent wisely.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

My best wishes for yourself and your mother Shakey and may 2017 bring you at least some of what you wish for.


Now Gaelic for Police Scotland?
A "corporate logo" in Gaelic and English?
Next they'll tell us they need bigger cars to fit this expanding corporate branding onto!

What a farce - and what an example of (yet again) inappropriate allocation of already-stretched resources.
Describing this as "cost neutral" is IMHO yet another stretching of terminology because even simply replacing paperwork will cost more than leaving it alone.

elantan

Hope everything works out with your mum Shakey

All the best for 2017

Were off to Stonehaven for Hogmanay ... do something a wee bit different this year we thought

antrobus

molerat wrote: »

..Interesting map as to where the language is actually spoken / understood ! ..

The map confirms the historical record. Scottish Gaelic would be the language of the Scots, who occupied the north-west of what is now Scotland. In the north-east were the Picts; their language has not survived, in the south-west they spoke Welsh, and English, or at least Anglo-Saxon in the south-east; Edinburgh was part of Northumbria until 930.

CLAPTON

antrobus wrote: »

The map confirms the historical record. Scottish Gaelic would be the language of the Scots, who occupied the north-west of what is now Scotland. In the north-east were the Picts; their language has not survived, in the south-west they spoke Welsh, and English, or at least Anglo-Saxon in the south-east; Edinburgh was part of Northumbria until 930.

only true scots should be allowed a vote in Scotland : afterall it is a nation.

zagubov

Happy New Year to all posters on the thread, regardless of their political persuasions.