The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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elantan wrote: »

Well that's not entirely true ... after 6 months we know that Brexit means Brexit, we know it's going to be a red white and blue Brexit and ermmmm .... well that's it really but hey let's spend our time slagging Nicola who at least came up with a 62 page plan for Brexit

Nicola came up with a 62 page plan for iscotland : even nationalist acolytes know there is absolutley nothing in this propoganda sheet to do with brexit and everything to do with Iscotland.

and by the way, what is Nicola's plan for Iscotland currency : should be a fairly simple question having had about 40 years to ponder it.

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elantan wrote: »

Well that's not entirely true ... after 6 months we know that Brexit means Brexit, we know it's going to be a red white and blue Brexit and ermmmm .... well that's it really but hey let's spend our time slagging Nicola who at least came up with a 62 page plan for Brexit

Don't be daft, you know perfectly well that May has not yet declared her plan.

Sturgeon's "plan" if you can call it that is just trite political drivel - not worth reading with it's main proposal already shown to be impractical.

elantan

6months and all we know is Brexit means Brexit and it's gonna be red white and blue ... this is what we do know ... May isn't very good

elantan

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

She paid people to come up with plans that are not possible, I wouldn't commend her on that I'd be asking how much cash she wasted on it. It's quite clear, in the UK and do as the UK does or independent and in the EU, maybe.

Will put this down to typical behaviour from yourself then shall we :-)

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TrickyTree83 wrote: »

She paid people to come up with plans that are not possible, I wouldn't commend her on that I'd be asking how much cash she wasted on it. It's quite clear, in the UK and do as the UK does or independent and in the EU, maybe.

I did note your "maybe" and I'm sorry to be picky TT but although the SNP would like to promote that as the choice, that is unlikely ever to be on the table. It would require a legal referendum, a a Yes vote a VERY rapid negotiation with a thoroughly pi**ed off yet somehow cooperative UK and completion of all Parliament processes, not to mention total unanimity of all EU member states to accepting a new country with a crippled economy and either very high debts or one reneging on its debts. Couple that with self-same UK wanting to leave the EU in 2 years and 3 months time.

Also as it stands independence and the EU don't go together too well; if Scotland ever did join the EU it would not be many months before wicked Westminster was replaced by wicked Brussels, wicked Germany, wicked France , wicked the other 25 of them.. The SNP would have a whinge field day though.

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elantan wrote: »

6months and all we know is Brexit means Brexit and it's gonna be red white and blue ... this is what we do know ... May isn't very good

Which boils down to the fact that you don't know what May's plan is and can't pick holes in it, whereas Sturgeon's "plan" is out there and deserves all the ridicule it is getting.

kabayiri

.string. wrote: »

You realise what this means, the SNP will demand a referendum to separate from Spain.

Some say that the original inspiration for the Separatist movement driving the SNP was a certain Lord Rutherford.

There we all were, quite happy with atoms n stuff, but not for Ruthers.

He goes on about wanting to split the atom; how it would all be better afterwards.

So he splits the atom, and we all know where that ended up !

Kaboom!!!!!!

So remember folks, before you split, won't someone think of the Neutrons.

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2 Questions on the EU

What is the SNP policy on defence?

What is the SNP policy regarding being part of the EU Army?

Just curious if there is a policy.

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kabayiri wrote: »

Some say that the original inspiration for the Separatist movement driving the SNP was a certain Lord Rutherford.

There we all were, quite happy with atoms n stuff, but not for Ruthers.

He goes on about wanting to split the atom; how it would all be better afterwards.

So he splits the atom, and we all know where that ended up !

Kaboom!!!!!!

So remember folks, before you split, won't someone think of the Neutrons.

Rutherford was a new zealander with an english mother and a scottish father

Shakethedisease

antrobus wrote: »

Sometimes it can't be much fun being a politician. You spend months preparing some 'cunning plan' and it falls apart five minutes later.

Jorge Toledo, Spanish minister for the EU, said: "If the UK leaves the single market, the whole UK will leave the single market. There is only one negotiator, the UK government."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4058006/Spain-DISMISSES-Nicola-Sturgeon-s-bid-Scotland-EU-single-market-UK-leaves.html


Ah well, back to the drawing board.

Theresa May is going to spend two years on her's, plus another 9 months before that... only for Spain to veto the UK's leaving deal because of Gibraltar leaving the Single Market.

There will be no drawing board for the UK. Out you go anyway.

Seen ex Labour MP's on LabourHame, the Daily Record editor and the Times Scottish editor all tweeting today about this and how May shouldn't dismiss Sturgeon's proposals out of hand. The tide's definitely on the turn with Scottish Labour and in some large sections of the media. Penny finally dropping.

Daily Record Editor

Murray Foote ‏@murrayf00te 4h4 hours ago Memo to @Number10gov .. When one side of a partnership stops listening and reacting to the needs of their partner, the partnership is doomed

May should agree with Sturgeon and leave it for the EU to dismiss ( or not). That would be the sensible thing to do. Only....