The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

TrickyTree83

sss555s wrote: »

Yes, I'll help you with that Tricky...


If you don't understand the information, don't reply! You are here more time than anyone so if you want the answers to those questions find them out yourself.

:beer:

I already know the answer.

I thought the last sentence made that clear?

kabayiri

Shakethedisease wrote: »

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If Theresa fires the gun in March for a hard Brexit after dismissing what Sturgeon is going to put in front of her in the next few weeks. Then expect a moves towards a referendum, the technicalities and legal arguments aside, to be called not long afterwards.
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And what if they don't call it a "hard Brexit", and leave many of the major issues to be resolved during the negotiations?

Will she wait until the negotiations come out with clarifications?

Portillo recently joked that 2 years of negotiations would involve 100 weeks of dithering, and 2 weeks of rush.

How would Sturgeon know if the dithering was down to UK or the EU?

It's obvious that if Sturgeon calls a referendum during this time then the UK government will blame her for trying to derail the process.

That would bolster the support for Scottish independence from rUK certainly. It's high risk but better than your 2014 failed attempt.

kabayiri

sss555s wrote: »

Can I just repeat the reply above to all the ones demanding what, when and where is Nicolas next move and why hasn't she told the Scots her plans. As Thug says, you're unbelievably naive and short sighted.
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Nicola is in control of her plans. PM May isn't actually the only one who decides how the Brexit process develops.

It might be other EU nations who decide how hard or soft this Brexit is. We can go in with a plan, but we may need to be prepared to adapt.

That's why I shall wait and see.

beecher2

kabayiri wrote: »

Nicola is in control of her plans. PM May isn't actually the only one who decides how the Brexit process develops.

It might be other EU nations who decide how hard or soft this Brexit is. We can go in with a plan, but we may need to be prepared to adapt.

That's why I shall wait and see.

Not really. An independent Scotland will have to negotiate with rUK.

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

At least the EU nationals will vote Yes next time.

do you think those EU nationals think that Nicola should stop dithering and the chaos in the SNP camp and tell them what currency they would be using in the event of Iscotland?

is that really so unreasonable?

Moto2

beecher2 wrote: »

Not really. An independent Scotland will have to negotiate with rUK.

Would the UK have all the data and qualified resource available prior to the conclusion of Brexit negotiations?
May a newly decided upon Indy Scotland not have to wait for that whether or not it suits the agenda?

beecher2

Moto2 wrote: »

Would the UK have all the data and qualified resource available prior to the conclusion of Brexit negotiations?
May a newly decided upon Indy Scotland not have to wait for that whether or not it suits the agenda?

The timing is so tricky. Call a referendum too early and no-one knows what type of Brexit has been agreed. No point going on what kind of Brexit the UK wants, as ultimately it is down to the other member states and we have to take it or leave it. Call it too late and there's the uncertainty of whether we'll be in the EU. Call it at any time without being confident in the numbers, then who knows what'll happen.

Wouldn't want to be in NS's shoes.

Nellybee

With these Royal Navy ships that are going to be built in Scotland would it not have been a way for the UK government to fire a warning shot to Scotland .They could of delayed the announcement after all what happens if The Scots do get there wish.Do the Scots want border controls are they prepared for there own currency , are they prepared for the loss of jobs and paying college fees and for prescriptions.These things dont seem to get debated and are much more important to Scotland infact when they are mentioned to SNP members they sidestep the questions.Also is this true Banff & Buchan and probably a few other constituencies voted for Brexit.

beecher2

I think the contract will be used by Better Together 2 and we will be threatened with its removal if we are independent
Bernard Ponsonby tried to get Michael Fallon to comment on whether constitutional change would have an effect on the contract and got nowhere.

TrickyTree83

Nellybee wrote: »

With these Royal Navy ships that are going to be built in Scotland would it not have been a way for the UK government to fire a warning shot to Scotland .They could of delayed the announcement after all what happens if The Scots do get there wish.Do the Scots want border controls are they prepared for there own currency , are they prepared for the loss of jobs and paying college fees and for prescriptions.These things dont seem to get debated and are much more important to Scotland infact when they are mentioned to SNP members they sidestep the questions.

Independence is the answer.

They will own 8% of those ships, they'll sell that 8% to the rest of the UK at a rebate of 50% of the cost of the ships to help pay for their civic nationalist socialist state spending.

I'm learning.