The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shakethedisease

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Edit: FYI, in the event of a hard brexit, the independence case is worse. Then we can pivot over to the argument you hilariously bungled earlier regarding where 64% of Scottish trade goes compared to 11% of Scottish trade. Post away friend, post away.

Is England and Wales likely to be stopping all trade with the EU then ? Wow that's quite some statement. I thought leaving the EU would leave the rUK a shining beacon of free trade and low/zero tariffs in a global setting*. My mistake. Obviously there should be an *except in Scotland at that asterisk. :cool:

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Is England and Wales likely to be stopping all trade with the EU then ? Wow that's quite some statement. I thought leaving the EU would leave the rUK a shining beacon of free trade and low/zero tariffs in a global setting*. My mistake. Obviously there should be an *except in Scotland at that asterisk. :cool:

That post had me puzzled for a while until I realised that you were counting a lot of chickens there. The Separation chicken, the Straight into EU chicken, the Services sold to the UK chicken and the continuation of "Buy British" including Scotland and trumping cheaper products from elsewhere chicken.

Cluck Cluck.

By the way, congratulations on indoctrinating zzzZZZz so successfully.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

That post had me puzzled for a while until I realised that you were counting a lot of chickens there. The Separation chicken, the Straight into EU chicken, the Services sold to the UK chicken and the continuation of "Buy British" including Scotland and trumping cheaper products from elsewhere chicken.

Cluck Cluck.

By the way, congratulations on indoctrinating zzzZZZz so successfully.

sss555ss was here posting for a long time in the lead up to the last ref. Before you started posting I believe. No indoctrination needed whatsoever. We journeyed 'together' in these threads for ages.

I'm not counting any chickens. Maybe the PM will surprise us all with the softest of feather down Brexits and a special deal on the side for Scotland/NI and Gibraltar.

sss555s

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I'm not counting any chickens. Maybe the PM will surprise us all with the softest of feather down Brexits and a special deal on the side for Scotland/NI and Gibraltar.

Maybe she will try another (Nissan) coup and scratch us a good deal on the quiet, but she could end up with egg on her face.

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Is England and Wales likely to be stopping all trade with the EU then ?

As the Ford engine plants are in Dagenham and Bridgend respectively highly unlikely.

Thrugelmir

sss555s wrote: »

Maybe she will try another (Nissan) coup and scratch us a good deal on the quiet, but she could end up with egg on her face.

What about the abject failure of the SNP's Enterprise Areas initiative. Which Swinney attempted to whitewash. Now that's what I call egg on face. That's why it's advisable to refrain from throwing mud.

TrickyTree83

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Is England and Wales likely to be stopping all trade with the EU then ? Wow that's quite some statement. I thought leaving the EU would leave the rUK a shining beacon of free trade and low/zero tariffs in a global setting*. My mistake. Obviously there should be an *except in Scotland at that asterisk. :cool:

We've been through this. You know the answers I'll give. When Scottish trade deals are controlled by the EU the fate of 64% of your trade is in the hands of others. As opposed to 11%. There's no way around the numbers or around who is in control of what with what Nicola is proposing if there is a hard brexit.

sss555s

Thrugelmir wrote: »

What about the abject failure of the SNP's Enterprise Areas initiative. Which Swinney attempted to whitewash. Now that's what I call egg on face. That's why it's advisable to refrain from throwing mud.

Your serious reply to a humorous post, made me smile

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

We've been through this. You know the answers I'll give. When Scottish trade deals are controlled by the EU the fate of 64% of your trade is in the hands of others. As opposed to 11%.

What do you think the 64% will drop to if Scotland remain in the EU?

TrickyTree83

sss555s wrote: »

Your serious reply to a humorous post, made me smile




What do you think the 64% will drop to if Scotland remain in the EU?

Put simply.

If there is to be no effect on the 64%, then there will be free trade between the EU and the UK and Nicola's red line for triggering an indy ref never gets crossed. And there will be no impact on either the 64% or the 11%.

If there is an effect on the 64%, then there will not be free trade between the EU and the UK and Nicola's red line will have been crossed triggering an indy ref.

In the case of the 2nd option you will need to choose between risking 64% of your trade by becoming independent and joining the EU, or risking 11% of your trade with the EU by remaining in the UK.

Keeping in mind that the trade means jobs, which mean taxes, which means revenue, less deficit and debt.

No one could possibly know what the 64% would drop to. But if there's a risk to 11% by remaining in the UK, it's a similar level of risk to a smaller proportion of your trade.

sss555s

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

No one could possibly know what the 64% would drop to. But if there's a risk to 11% by remaining in the UK, it's a similar level of risk to a smaller proportion of your trade.

So you're basing your facts on unknowns?

Trade could also go up.