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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • I've left a lot out of that.

    I got bored.
    :T
    Another great post Tricky.

    Just one thing?
    Don't assume half of Scotland believes this guff, the likes of which Shakey et al spout.
    They don't.
    You'll be lucky if it's even a third IMHO.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    :T
    Another great post Tricky.

    Just one thing?
    Don't assume half of Scotland believes this guff, the likes of which Shakey et al spout.
    They don't.
    You'll be lucky if it's even a third IMHO.

    I think most of us can separate Scotland from the SNP.

    I love Scotland. I like the fact that it feels different from down here.

    I still think it faces some major challenges though, as does the rest of the UK.

    Hundreds of thousands of jobs will disappear in the coming decades, due to technology and the ease of moving work around the globe. Being independent isn't going to solve that.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    I think most of us can separate Scotland from the SNP.

    I love Scotland. I like the fact that it feels different from down here.

    I still think it faces some major challenges though, as does the rest of the UK.

    Hundreds of thousands of jobs will disappear in the coming decades, due to technology and the ease of moving work around the globe. Being independent isn't going to solve that.

    millions of jobs have been lost in scotland over the last 50 years
  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite

    I apologise if I hurt you previously when you were wrong about Scottish trade statistics. It wasn't my intention, it's just that facts don't care about your feelings.

    You're dreaming Tricky. Wake up!!

    You keep spouting the same rubbish every time you've been proved not to be correct. You keep saying facts when there are very few relevant "facts" about the future of Scotland. All you are quoting is estimates of how Scotland is performing under Westminster rule.

    I don't trust Westminster to be honest one bit. They have a track record of lies, deceit and manipulation when it comes to the truth about Scotland.
    The little powers that Scotland has are more than a great indicator that Scotland can manage Scotland better than Westminster can.

    That may not suit your hopes but it's how I see it and to be honest, I don't read much of your posts any more as they are a very tiresome rant, when you have nothing new to bring to the table.

    At least Kabayiri's posts are interesting and worth reading, even if I don't always agree ;)
  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    millions of jobs have been lost in scotland over the last 50 years

    Let's take a more relevant look at employment in the UK...
    The Office for National Statistics said 21,000 more Scots were in work, compared with the previous quarter, bringing the total to 2,631,000.
    Scotland now has the highest employment rate out of the four UK nations, and is outperforming the UK as a whole.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-35357497
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    sss555s wrote: »
    You're dreaming Tricky. Wake up!!

    You keep spouting the same rubbish every time you've been proved not to be correct. You keep saying facts when there are very few relevant "facts" about the future of Scotland. All you are quoting is estimates of how Scotland is performing under Westminster rule.

    I don't trust Westminster to be honest one bit. They have a track record of lies, deceit and manipulation when it comes to the truth about Scotland.
    The little powers that Scotland has are more than a great indicator that Scotland can manage Scotland better than Westminster can.

    That may not suit your hopes but it's how I see it and to be honest, I don't read much of your posts any more as they are a very tiresome rant, when you have nothing new to bring to the table.

    At least Kabayiri's posts are interesting and worth reading, even if I don't always agree ;)

    You've only ever offered one factual "retort".

    That 64% of a village of 100 people is less than 11% of a region of 500m. Or something to that effect.

    That was your attempt to prove me wrong in saying Scotland exports 64% of its external trade to the rest of the UK and only 11% to the EU.

    You were wrong, hilariously so in fact.

    The reason you have seemingly all stopped engaging with me is because you cannot win the arguments.

    So I repeat them, time and time again. One day you will have to overcome these arguments because otherwise the independence movement will inevitably fail. So why do you not do so now?

    If you continue to refuse to respond correctly to the arguments I put forward and continue to output childish diatribe in response then I've already made the point I was trying to make. Anyone reading this who is wondering "What's best for me, an independent Scotland or Scotland in the UK?" what will they think? Well would you side with the argument that doesn't indicate austerity and job losses, or the side that simply post's links to images of toys being thrown from a pram or constantly berates Scottish Labour?

    They are not arguments.

    In your folly you might sit there and tell yourself that the politics of it means more, or that the cultural differences are now too large, or that any of Scotland's current situation is down to Westminster. That's all poppycock, it's all in your mind, and anyone on here or the other threads will tell you the same. The only people who will agree with what you say are people who are equally as challenged when it comes to the truth.
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    sss555s wrote: »
    Let's take a more relevant look at employment in the UK...



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-35357497

    Perfect.

    Is this Westminster's fault?

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    http://www.parliament.scot/visitandlearn/education/18642.aspx

    Employment, trade and industry are reserved matters.

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  • sss555s
    sss555s Posts: 3,175 Forumite
    kabayiri wrote: »
    I think most of us can separate Scotland from the SNP.

    I love Scotland. I like the fact that it feels different from down here.

    I still think it faces some major challenges though, as does the rest of the UK.

    Hundreds of thousands of jobs will disappear in the coming decades, due to technology and the ease of moving work around the globe. Being independent isn't going to solve that.

    I also have never voted for SNP.

    Did you also watch Humans?

    I think Scotland is far better placed to cope with mass unemployment due to technology. The trouble may be that the SE and London don't like to suffer too much and will pass on the pain to all other parts of the UK.
  • mollycat
    mollycat Posts: 1,475 Forumite
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    sss555s wrote: »
    You're dreaming Tricky. Wake up!!

    You keep spouting the same rubbish every time you've been proved not to be correct. You keep saying facts when there are very few relevant "facts" about the future of Scotland. All you are quoting is estimates of how Scotland is performing under Westminster rule.

    I don't trust Westminster to be honest one bit. They have a track record of lies, deceit and manipulation when it comes to the truth about Scotland.
    The little powers that Scotland has are more than a great indicator that Scotland can manage Scotland better than Westminster can.

    That may not suit your hopes but it's how I see it and to be honest, I don't read much of your posts any more as they are a very tiresome rant, when you have nothing new to bring to the table.

    At least Kabayiri's posts are interesting and worth reading, even if I don't always agree ;)

    I've bolded the parts that made me laugh the most; in a pot/kettle sort of a way.

    You people, eh? :rotfl:

    I suppose Kayabiri avoids your ire as he/she doesn't mind too much about scottish independence, but quite rightly is motivated by the ongoing divisive behaviour by nationalists which is harming the UK as a whole.

    That won't bother you though will it; independence at ANY cost and damn the consequences.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    sss555s wrote: »
    Let's take a more relevant look at employment in the UK...



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-35357497

    one can't even praise scotland without an SNP acolyte complaining
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