The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

elantan

Generali wrote: »

A quick Google seems to support that. Fewer than 10 reported cases of anti semetism versus several hundred people found guilty of secartian aggrivated assaults alone.

Aye that does ma nut in, in the village where I live it's really bad as well

Generali

elantan wrote: »

Aye that does ma nut in, in the village where I live it's really bad as well

Really? I assumed it was just a big city thing.

I think the only sectarianism I have ever witnessed in England is from Scots and Irish and even then only the Northern Irish. It all seems so 18th Century. If you asked someone in a pub in London whether they were Catholic or Protestant you'd be told to mind yer bleedin' own.

elantan

No the villages can be much much worse ... from what I understand it's more a central belt thing... central west more than central east

Think the north and south are relatively free from the crap

zagubov

Generali wrote: »

Labour probably aren't helping themselves with this squalid anti-Semitic spat. It really isn't a good look and must spill over into the upcoming elections.

Is anti-Semitism a problem in Scotland? There are some fairly obvious Sectarian ones.

Generali wrote: »

A quick Google seems to support that. Fewer than 10 reported cases of anti semetism versus several hundred people found guilty of secartian aggrivated assaults alone.

It doesn't seem to have been a feature of its history. In fact one Jewish scholar, David Daiches , albeit a Scottish one, made the claim it was the only European country not to have had state persecution of Jews.

zagubov

Generali wrote: »

Really? I assumed it was just a big city thing.

I think the only sectarianism I have ever witnessed in England is from Scots and Irish and even then only the Northern Irish. It all seems so 18th Century. If you asked someone in a pub in London whether they were Catholic or Protestant you'd be told to mind yer bleedin' own.

It spills out to the suburbs and surrounding villages. Industrial towns had more problems with it than dormitory towns. If there was a Celtic club and a Rangers club in a town it was usually a sign that the division was there.

Edinburgh and Dundee both have Catholic and Protestant teams but treat them in the same way as Manchester and Liverpool do (ie they don't do the sectarian bit at all).

Aberdeen doesn't have this at all. HAMISH would think this is all nonsense.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

zagubov wrote: »

Aberdeen doesn't have this at all. HAMISH would think this is all nonsense.

Aberdeen has very little of this, but there is a bit in some very local areas, albeit mostly football related and worsened by central belt incomers who have moved here.

elantan

It totally scunnered me, I never got brought up with it at all ( Welsh parents English style upbringing ) so genuinely didn't understand it at all, my husband thankfully doesn't give it air space either ( although I don't think I would've married him if he did) so our son was brought up holding it in disdain, when we moved to the village we currently live in we purposefully kept our son at the school he was already in as the villages reputation is well known throughout the UK, it meant driving miles and for hours every day on the motorway to get him to school but we are glad we did

chucknorris

Generali wrote: »

Really? I assumed it was just a big city thing.

I think the only sectarianism I have ever witnessed in England is from Scots and Irish and even then only the Northern Irish. It all seems so 18th Century. If you asked someone in a pub in London whether they were Catholic or Protestant you'd be told to mind yer bleedin' own.

When I worked with a guy (in London) from Northern Ireland (back in the early 90's), he said back home you would be asked the same question. I said that I would say I'm an atheist (which is true), but he recanted with, yes, but they would want to know if you were a catholic or protestant atheist!

Shakethedisease

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Aberdeen has very little of this, but there is a bit in some very local areas, albeit mostly football related and worsened by central belt incomers who have moved here.

I'd agree with it being football related more than religion these days. I do Crossfit sessions alongside an A+E consultant and a Mental Health Nurse. Both were shaking heads after that last Rangers and Celtic game about a fortnight ago. Alcohol, fights etc. My facebook was full of it as well ( am in the central belt quite near Glasgow ) and my sister and her son are big Rangers fans. Was never my thing though.

By and large it IS dying out, and football tribalism is the more important factor. But it's still labeled as sectarian in nature ( because it still is ). Incidents seem to revolve round old firm football games, and when there is a big Orange Order gathering, loads of buses and folks over from Northern Ireland for orange walks. There's one of those big gatherings round my way once a year. And a few smaller local orange walks thoughout the year. However, it's very noticable on the Orange walks that those taking part are all getting on a bit. There's not many under 40 in them at all, and the marches are getting smaller each year. Especially compared to when I was a kid and the march seemed to go on for miles past our front door with loads of different branches and banners.

Edited to say :- It's not something these days that affects much in people's day to day lives re religion anymore. Just when there's a big game on or the OO is in town.

elantan

I tend to avoid the main street of the village I live in from early Junish till aound End of July Beginning August ... I go in and out the village via the back roads, my village was the star facebook share during the last old firm game ... sigh

I spose it explains the nazi jacobite separatist scum nick name I was guve during indy ref ... and the threat of 2 bullets between the eyes ... Lovely class of people