The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Thrugelmir

Moto2 wrote: »

Seemingly, Germany doesn't have enough power to prevent a 'small part of Belgium' vetoing a trade deal.
If they are such a dictator why don't they simply over-rule the 'small part of Belgium'?

That's the rules. Full agreement or nothing.

Moto2

Ah, I see

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Moto2 wrote: »

Seemingly, Germany doesn't have enough power to prevent a 'small part of Belgium' vetoing a trade deal.
If they are such a dictator why don't they simply over-rule the 'small part of Belgium'?

Wait and see.
It certainly would not be the first time the EU "persuaded" a non-compliant member to change their minds; ask any Greek Cypriot.
There are quite a few examples though.
Below is a brief summary of some of the more major ones:
http://billothewisp.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/the-eu-what-happens-when-veto-is-used.html

ruggedtoast

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Wait and see.
It certainly would not be the first time the EU "persuaded" a non-compliant member to change their minds; ask any Greek Cypriot.
There are quite a few examples though.
Below is a brief summary of some of the more major ones:
http://billothewisp.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/the-eu-what-happens-when-veto-is-used.html

Oh yes, the Greeks. Let's consider Greece for a moment. A left wing, statist country, with a massive welfare state that provided absurdly generous benefits without any apparent way to collect taxes to pay for them.

Reliant on astounding levels of borrowing the Greeks blew up their own economy then voted resoundingly to leave the eurozone (note zone, not EU). The Germans then even offered them a billion euros as a sweetener to get them to go, and their government still wouldn't do it.

Stuck with Greece, the ECB introduced measures to stop the euro collapsing while making it very clear that we're Greece to leave the EZ it wouldn't be abandoned. And would in fact get the same kind of development that all the poor parts of the UK that benefited enormously from EU grants used to get, and have now voted out of to spite their own faces.

Naturally when all the right wingers on here were demanding Greece be pilloried a couple of years back, you are now holding them up as an example of German oppression.

ruggedtoast

Sturgeon has just turned up the heat to 110 degrees!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/15/nicola-sturgeon-vows-to-hold-second-scottish-vote-in-event-of-hard-brexit

There WILL be another referendum on independence and it'll be next year.

Brexiteers are reeling.

Tories are incoherent.

Pound is tanking.

Race hate on the streets.

Scotland seceding.

British companies lining up to relocate to Europe.

Great job Brexitards.

Great effing job.

elantan

In amongst the whole of the conference the SNP passed a motion regarding medical cannabis use, it will be interesting to follow this development ... the councillor from Glasgow was a nutter though ... she really seemed to get people's backs up

Rinoa

elantan wrote: »

In amongst the whole of the conference the SNP passed a motion regarding medical cannabis use, it will be interesting to follow this development ... the councillor from Glasgow was a nutter though ... she really seemed to get people's backs up

They also passed a motion for 16 year olds to receive full minimum wage the day they start work. Soon to be £9+ per hour.

Good luck with that.

TrickyTree83

They can pass a motion that the moon is made of cheese. It doesn't mean a thing.

Leanne1812

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Welcome to mollycat and to kelpie35.

My thanks to you both for being brave enough to post in here; I note that the usual potentially inflammatory responses have sadly already been forthcoming, which is I suspect why many simply do not bother posting.

It is good to see others say what I have said in this thread for some time - which is that the views of the pro-SNP pro-indy acolytes in this thread in fact only represent part of Scottish opinion inside Scotland itself and NOT the majority that some would have readers of this thread believe.

I have said before that those beliefs are a small proportion in Scotland yet some of those within disagree.
Hardly surprising really when they flatly refuse acknowledgement of even the most basic points of the independence debate.

I agree that most Scots are not inclined to be desirous of the inevitable increased austerity that independence at this time would bring, us Scots being generally happy (or at least accepting) of the status quo which has existed for so long.

I've noted how you glossed over mollycats 'potentially inflammatory' remark calling pro Indy posters clowns. Don't you recognise your own double standards with certain posters?

Moto2