The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shakethedisease

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

The point about Westminster was simply about what will stop a UK exit from the EU

Nothing will stop a UK exit from the EU. It's just that Scotland won't be included.

A Scottish referendum on independence won't do that for Scotland if it's not recognised. It'll just be a glorified poll of opinion.

But it will be recognised as long as it's held under more or less the same electoral rules as the previous referendum. And I don't mean that to include any Westminster permission just electoral procedures.

Granted the UK government could and I would say should address that referendum result, but not to the detriment of the remaining population of the UK. In the same way the EU will not address the result of the EU referendum in the UK prior to article 50 so as not to be to the detriment of the members and citizens of the EU. Therefore I would fully expect them to address it once the deal with the EU is clear and not before on an SNP timeline. Then Scottish people will then know the choices on offer.

They'll know about the single market well before Article 50 is at it's conclusion. No one will be able to hide that for 2 full years regarding the UK being in or out of it. It'll become obvious sooner rather than later.

I see nothing ill-advised or foolish about this approach.

From your point of view I suppose not. Scottish voters may have other ideas, and their priorities might differ somewhat from those of what's best for Theresa May to have to deal with or not. It's Scotland's interests that are the priority for the party in power with constituencies north of the border. Not Theresa May's.

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Nothing will stop a UK exit from the EU. It's just that Scotland won't be included.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

One day the balloon is going to burst and fall to earth very rapidly. There's going to be dissent once people realise how much they've been mislead by their heroes.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Thrugelmir wrote: »

There's going to be dissent once people realise how much they've been mislead by their heroes.

Indeed there will.

I fully expect there to be riots in the street when the masses realise just what a lie they were sold by the Brexiteers...

Gove, BoJo and Davis may need to employ the same firm of private security providers Farage does.

elantan

I hear the £ was at a 168 year low yesterday ... nothing to do with Brexit ... no sireeeee:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Treasury forecasting the loss of tax revenue form a 'hard Brexit' would be up to £66bn a year - equivalent to two thirds of the entire NHS budget - with a 9.5% hit to GDP.

Given current debt and deficit burdens that would put the UK in a similarly dire fiscal predicament as an Independent Scotland would be today.

Of course an iScotland would likely inherit the UK's EU membership and have access to the EU single market and a real opportunity to poach vast quantities of UK business and tax revenue - some of those hundreds of billions of pounds worth of FDI that only came to the UK because it was within the single market - and that now feels more than a bit put out by the Brexit vote.

Moving a few hours drive up the road to a newly indy Scotland with the same language and a virtually identical legal system would sure be easier than relocating to France or Germany....

mrginge

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Of course an iScotland would likely inherit the UK's EU membership

Yes Hamish, of course they would :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Will they be inheriting the UK's contribution as well?

I'm thinking that the inner turmoil of knowing you'll never see your beloved Tories in power again has addled your brain.

skintmacflint

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Of course an iScotland would likely inherit the UK's EU membership and have access to the EU single market and a real opportunity to poach vast quantities of UK business and tax revenue - some of those hundreds of billions of pounds worth of FDI that only came to the UK because it was within the single market - and that now feels more than a bit put out by the Brexit vote.

Moving a few hours drive up the road to a newly indy Scotland with the same language and a virtually identical legal system would sure be easier than relocating to France or Germany....

Hamish I know you're angry, but seriously this is wishful thinking, it seriously just isn't going to happen the way you're describing it.

elantan

1.5 trillion in debt busting money is gonna be hard for the UK to find especially once Scotland goes ...

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

elantan wrote: »

1.5 trillion in debt busting money is gonna be hard for the UK to find especially once Scotland goes ...

£66 Billion a year in additional deficit is gonna be even harder for the UK to deal with whether or not Scotland goes.

Given the UK would be in a worse deficit position than both Greece and an iScotland at that point.... The main incentive to stay has pretty much vanished.

TrickyTree83

So much cloud cuckoo land on this thread right now, it's impossible to counter.

Someone else step up and sort it out.