The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

wotsthat

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Nevertheless, the ones that are smirking will stop smirking pretty quickly if Scotland goes Indy.

I personally fouind May's language fairly inflammatory.

May's comments were aimed squarely at Sturgeon and the waning SNP.

Probably why the Scottish peoples haven't risen up. You're the last person I'd expect to be trying to whip up nationalist fervour.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Nevertheless, the ones that are smirking will stop smirking pretty quickly if Scotland goes Indy.
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They wouldn't be smirking in the first place had Labour not self destructed prior to the EU Referendum.

kabayiri

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Nevertheless, the ones that are smirking will stop smirking pretty quickly if Scotland goes Indy.

I personally fouind May's language fairly inflammatory.

Why?

What's the benefit to the rest of the UK of retaining Scotland in the Union?

It's certainly not economic. Losing Scotland could see the deficit reduced overnight if rUK negotiate well.

It's not the loss of a migrant stronghold. Not that many EU migrants want to go to Scotland.

It's not a political asset to an Unionist party down here. The SNP dominated Scotland is divisive and anti-Westminster.

The sales brochure for keeping Scotland looks decidedly thin.

ruggedtoast

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

They wouldn't be smirking in the first place had Labour not self destructed prior to the EU Referendum.

64% of Labour voters voted for progress, security, brotherhood and for their futures.

A paltry 40 something percent of Tories did the same. The rest slithered like eels to the ballot boxes to vote for a future of regressive petty nationalism that will impoverish their children and make the UK a laughing stock.

Ugh.

Meanwhile your man in charge of foreign affairs is treating the rest of the world with the same ludicrous disdain as the rest of his party treat Scotland (a place I suspect they also consider to be foreign).

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-tory-conservative-conference-foreign-secretary-brexit-that-country-africa-british-a7342751.html

Short-sighted enough to reignite doubts about his ability to strengthen already waning relations between Britain and a number of nations across the globe, Johnson’s mistaken use of the phrase “that country” in reference to Africa, the second-largest continent in the world, speaks to his habit of routinely issuing offensive remarks about Africa and the citizens that make up its 54 countries.

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I personally fouind May's language fairly inflammatory.

We wouldn't expect anything else of you. :rotfl:

ruggedtoast

Thrugelmir wrote: »

We wouldn't expect anything else of you. :rotfl:

I am sure I don't know what you mean.

kabayiri

ruggedtoast wrote: »

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I personally fouind May's language fairly inflammatory.

She knew what she had to say to get the conference attendees onboard.

Europe has always been a divisive issue for the Tories. She needed to appear confident and strong on the Brexit issue.

She wouldn't win any friends in the hall by adopting a meek attitude towards NI or Scotland on Brexit.

I found May's language to be English, for the record.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

ruggedtoast wrote: »

64% of Labour voter

Labour voters made up 20% of all leave voters.

Remain needed just a 1% swing to have kept us in the EU.

A mere 20th of all Labour voters would have done the job... But Corbyn's obvious ambivalence and the party's self destruction left the door open to the Leave campaign.

Your swing to the left has cost the country dearly.

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I am sure I don't know what you mean.

You have very polarised views on individuals. If Mrs May said Good Morning . You' probably disagree and say it's the evening. Looking for something that isn't there serves no purpose.

ruggedtoast

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Labour voters made up 20% of all leave voters.

Remain needed just a 1% swing to have kept us in the EU.

A mere 20th of all Labour voters would have done the job... But Corbyn's obvious ambivalence and the party's self destruction left the door open to the Leave campaign.

Your swing to the left has cost the country dearly.

I think I should remind you that it was your party that called this dreadful and inauspicious referendum.

It was your party leader that decided that UKIP, a single issue party that fielded a grand total of one MP, should for some reason have its single issue as campaign pledge for the Conservative Party and then the UK government.

Well that worked out really well didn't it?

There wasn't a single party comprised of rational people who actually have a presence in the Commons who wanted a referendum. But UKIP supporters, with one MP, are a bit elderly, a bit xenophobic, a bit rich and frankly a bit racist, so natually the Conservatives have to bend over backwards to accommodate them at the expense of everyone else.

You can't lay the blame for this total fiasco at Labour's door.

There is no other party that would have given these people the time of day let alone their stupid referendum.