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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    20% more Scots voted no than Yes in the best economic circumstances there are ever likely to be for Scotland to leave the Union. That was the chance and it's never coming back.


    Who knows maybe the SNP can divert Scottish money into advertising whiskey around the world increasing exports 10x to £40 billion a year....
  • Generali
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    cells wrote: »
    Who knows maybe the SNP can divert Scottish money into advertising whiskey around the world increasing exports 10x to £40 billion a year....

    I realise youre joking but I wonder could the Scotch whisky industry realistically increase by that extent out of interest? They make 72,000,000 litres at the moment. Is making 720 million even possible with the water, land available for barley production etc.?

    You seem to be good at doing those sorts of guesstimates :)
  • zagubov
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    cells wrote: »
    Scots will migrate to England at a rapid rate making the position even worse for those that remain.

    We'll know when that stage is complete, when most of the world's business leaders will end up drinking whisky, attending Burns suppers, joining lodges of fraternal societies and playing golf.;)
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  • elantan wrote: »
    This shows just how very little you know

    Which part was wrong?
  • kabayiri
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    cells wrote: »
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    With a 40% devaluation Scotland could possibly export more and import less. Maybe the economy could grow from that point as businesses go up to scotland to make use of the 40% cheaper labour and rents

    And all the savvy Scots with desirable skills would go work in England.

    I'd be buying shares in the commuter train and bus services crossing the border.

    Carlisle would become a boom town! Fancy that :D
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    I realise youre joking but I wonder could the Scotch whisky industry realistically increase by that extent out of interest? They make 72,000,000 litres at the moment. Is making 720 million even possible with the water, land available for barley production etc.?

    You seem to be good at doing those sorts of guesstimates :)


    Yes I think they could up production 10x

    At £20-100 for a litre it's a lot of money for not all that much calories. Its a high value product especially the expensive brands.

    Of course the problem is convincing the world to drink 10x as much whiskey. Maybe if the Indians and Chinese acquire a taste for it once they get richer they might buy more.


    If they could increase whiskey exports 10x they would truely be sorted.
  • kabayiri
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    Perhaps part of the long standing grievance from Scots is the feeling that they were the guinea pig / the experiment ; in the Poll tax trial.

    We do need somewhere to provide an experimental hotbed though.

    An independent Scotland could provide exactly that. If a new lower currency helped it to become the new sweatshop of Europe, there are plenty of people down in England and Wales to take advantage of that.

    Will we see the day when labels on products reading "Made in China" / "Made in Scotland" are greeted with the same matter of factness?
  • Generali
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    cells wrote: »
    Yes I think they could up production 10x

    At £20-100 for a litre it's a lot of money for not all that much calories. Its a high value product especially the expensive brands.

    Of course the problem is convincing the world to drink 10x as much whiskey. Maybe if the Indians and Chinese acquire a taste for it once they get richer they might buy more.


    If they could increase whiskey exports 10x they would truely be sorted.

    http://www.wrap.org.uk/sites/files/wrap/Whisky%20guidance%20FINAL%20010512%20AG.pdf

    Apparently 61,000,000,000 litres of water is used to make whisky in Scotland although only a quarter is used for purposes other than cooling. So 150 billion litres of water would be embedded in the Scotch.

    That's a lot of water.
  • zagubov
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    Generali wrote: »
    http://www.wrap.org.uk/sites/files/wrap/Whisky%20guidance%20FINAL%20010512%20AG.pdf

    Apparently 61,000,000,000 litres of water is used to make whisky in Scotland although only a quarter is used for purposes other than cooling. So 150 billion litres of water would be embedded in the Scotch.

    That's a lot of water.

    Wherever will they get it from? It's not like it just falls out of the sky.
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  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    http://www.wrap.org.uk/sites/files/wrap/Whisky%20guidance%20FINAL%20010512%20AG.pdf

    Apparently 61,000,000,000 litres of water is used to make whisky in Scotland although only a quarter is used for purposes other than cooling. So 150 billion litres of water would be embedded in the Scotch.

    That's a lot of water.


    They don't lack for water op north

    Also that sounds a lot but a typical home uses about 400,000 litres a year

    Litres is the wrong figure to use. What's it cost to buy 1000 litres of water for industry? For a home its about £1

    So at retail prices 150B litres would be £0.15B for £40B of sales. Of course industry will pay a lot less than retail so its likely going to be less than 1/5th that figure
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