The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

elantan

It does look like in a way May isn't telling us what she wants so that when she doesn't get it she won't look as bad ... save face so to speak

islandannie

elantan wrote: »

I don't barter ... I refuse to .. walk away if I am not happy

Just like the SNP then?

No real surprise.

TrickyTree83

elantan wrote: »

It does look like in a way May isn't telling us what she wants so that when she doesn't get it she won't look as bad ... save face so to speak

It could be that.

None of us know the reason why May didn't answer. Angus knew she couldn't/wouldn't answer. In his position of course I would do the same. Knowing it would trap her into an uncomfortable position, but the way she handled it was pretty good.

mrginge

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Why should that matter to rUK if you're leaving anyway ?

Can you answer the question?

Shakethedisease

mrginge wrote: »

Can you answer the question?

No. I'm not a fortune teller.

I think it's highly probable, that once Article 50 is triggered and rUK is leaving for 100% true, definite, really really, no second referendum, no parliamentary vote blah blah. That the EU will announce it's position re an independent Scotland. I also think that it's highly improbable that their position will be to tell Scotland they can't remain in the EU. I do not know what the deal would be.

I could be wrong but Sturgeon seems very confident in pushing the EU position for someone expecting to be told to get tae after risking calling another ref in order to stay in.

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

No. I'm not a fortune teller.

I think it's highly probable, that once Article 50 is triggered and rUK is leaving for 100% true, definite, really really, no second referendum, no parliamentary vote blah blah. That the EU will announce it's position re an independent Scotland. I also think that it's highly improbable that their position will be to tell Scotland they can't remain in the EU. I do not know what the deal would be.

I could be wrong but Sturgeon seems very confident in pushing the EU position for someone expecting to be told to get tae after risking calling another ref in order to stay in.

surely Nicola has a detailed plan for when article 50 is enaacted:

has she tod the scottish people EXACTLY what it is : she has had almost 3 months to work it out : she looks a fool for not announcing it.

Shakethedisease

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I don't really care what political commentators say. I guess these people are there for those who don't watch it themselves.

I couldn't care less where the tweet came from, it was the substance of the tweet which May was using to attack Corbyn, because he's ruining Labour. Which is a travesty for the UK's political system, I will say Angus Robertson has more credit with me than Jeremy Corbyn. But on this occasion May certainly didn't get shamed.

You'd care if Corbyn or Sturgeon had did it.

What Angus did was like asking a loaded question.

i.e.

"It's been proven that good and righteous Scottish nationalists such as you like banana splits, do you like banana splits?"

May either didn't have a plan, or she did have a plan and couldn't share it, so either way he was setting her up to fail. But her retort regarding the importance of the UK to Scotland versus that of the EU certainly put him in his place if you're aware of the situation, which I'm certain you are.

It's Prime Ministers QUESTIONS. Are you expecting that MP's from other parties will just ask her easy ones ? And whatever May was doing it certainly wasn't being seen to put Robertson in his place ( whatever that is supposed to mean ). Most reports of PMQ's today are of a) Corbyn not asking any hard hitting questions and b ) have May waffling and not answering them when she was.

She doesn't have a plan Tricky. Whatever she does will unleash a huge backlash somewhere. Be it Scotland, NI, Gibraltar, Spain, staying in the Single Market, leaving the Single market, FOM, no FOM. All of which is all before we even add the EU into the mix for negotiations.

TrickyTree83

CLAPTON wrote: »

surely Nicola has a detailed plan for when article 50 is enaacted:

has she tod the scottish people EXACTLY what it is : she has had almost 3 months to work it out : she looks a fool for not announcing it.

That's some beautiful irony there, that hadn't occurred to me.

Shakethedisease

CLAPTON wrote: »

surely Nicola has a detailed plan for when article 50 is enaacted:

has she tod the scottish people EXACTLY what it is : she has had almost 3 months to work it out : she looks a fool for not announcing it.

That's rich coming from you two I'm afraid. All those months of Brexit talk, and it turns out no one has the faintest idea what to do when it actually happens.

You don't even know yet what you voted for nearly three months ago.. in the past.

TrickyTree83

Shakethedisease wrote: »

You'd care if Corbyn or Sturgeon had did it.

It's Prime Ministers QUESTIONS. Are you expecting that MP's from other parties will just ask her easy ones ? And whatever May was doing it certainly wasn't being seen to put Robertson in his place ( whatever that is supposed to mean ). Most reports of PMQ's today are of a) Corbyn not asking any hard hitting questions and b ) have May waffling and not answering them when she was.

She doesn't have a plan Tricky. Whatever she does will unleash a huge backlash somewhere. Be it Scotland, NI, Gibraltar, Spain, staying in the Single Market, leaving the Single market, FOM, no FOM. All of which is all before we even add the EU into the mix for negotiations.

These are just opinions though. The facts are, she was asked an impossible question under the circumstances and retorted well. None of us know if she has a plan or not. That's the truth.

I couldn't care less what Corbyn says I'm afraid. I knew everything I needed to know about him when there was a video clip of him singing communist songs, in a bar with communist paraphernalia all around after initially winning the labour leadership.

And as I'd said before, Angus was right to ask the question, that's what Corbyn should have been doing. I don't listen to the commentators, I found that her retort was based in fact and put the question on the single market and Scotland into its correct perspective.