The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

mollycat

Shakethedisease wrote: »

You view the SNP on par with the BNP. That tells me all I need to know.

BNP British nationalism= Bad.

IRA Irish nationalism= Bad.

Marie Le Pen French nationalism= Bad.

Early to mid 20th century nationalism across europe leading to x2 World wars and deaths of millions= Bad.

SNP Scottish nationalism= Soft, cuddly and good.

That's what you're saying?

Really?

Ignore me if you want; we both know why the majority of YES voters want independence and people throughout the UK know it.

I'm off for a pint!

Leanne1812

I think I'm seeing a fair amount of British nationalism rearing its head over these last few pages. But that's surely ok Molly?....... I don't need to repeat what I said a few pages back but it's no longer a little undercurrent. It's blatant, there for everyone to see though I'd imagine the culprits have no idea what I'm talking about.

No doubt it will be blamed on the so called "scots nationalists" who "started it".

It's worse than children in a playground.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Leanne1812

What is the reason, as you see it Mollycat, that the majority of Yes voters want independence?

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

A ( questionable ) starting point of 47% is way better than the last time.

You'd expect the starting point to be far far higher. The SNP cannot afford to play games for their own credibility with the electorate. They won't get the opportunity of a third vote.

elantan

Glasgow looked awfy busy today

CLAPTON

elantan wrote: »

Glasgow looked awfy busy today

spending english hand outs
maybe not for so much longer : enjoy while you can

Shakethedisease

Thrugelmir wrote: »

You'd expect the starting point to be far far higher. The SNP cannot afford to play games for their own credibility with the electorate. They won't get the opportunity of a third vote.

At the end of June most of us expected Boris Johnson as PM and a hard Brexit Article 50 to be invoked asap, both of which would have made a Scottish referendum inevitable. Neither happened. I'd suggest it was the Leave camp and now the Conservative govt that are playing games with credibility. Sturgeon has laid all her cards out very publicly on the table thus far.

Seen elsewhere

A 2% increase in support of independence compared to the 2014 result is hardly a major blow to the SNP. If it had dropped away by 10% then fair enough but to have an increase makes this headline laughable. I suspect many voters in Scotland like myself would rather wait to see what deal Theresa May will manage to conjure up for Brexit. So far all we have is "Brexit means Brexit" so I don't hold out too much hope.
Unionists can rejoice if there's a drop in support for independence once Article 50 is triggered and the UK govt has a tangible plan.

I agree. ^^^^ and as time moves on, it's also looking more and more likely that the UK won't be leaving the EU in any sort of hard Brexit fashion. ( sorry Clapton )

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

At the end of June most of us expected Boris Johnson as PM and a hard Brexit Article 50 to be invoked asap, both of which would have made a Scottish referendum inevitable. Neither happened. I'd suggest it was the Leave camp and now the Conservative govt that are playing games with credibility. Sturgeon has laid all her cards out very publicly on the table thus far.

Seen elsewhere
I agree. ^^^^ and as time moves on, it's also looking more and more likely that the UK won't be leaving the EU in any sort of hard Brexit fashion. ( sorry Clapton )

Well you have been consistently wrong : no need to boast about it.

The reality is that Nicola will only (try) to call for a new referendum when the polls consistently show over 55% and preferably over 60% in favour.

Everything else she says is just junk, to fill in the time and to cause as much mischieve as possible.

I have to say I am massively disappointed.
It seems the voters of scotland are far more intelligent and moderate that I gave them credit for : to them I offer my apologies.

.string.

Leanne1812 wrote: »

What is the reason, as you see it Mollycat, that the majority of Yes voters want independence?

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2014/09/scotland-voted/

Rinoa

Shakethedisease wrote: »

At the end of June most of us expected Boris Johnson as PM and a hard Brexit Article 50 to be invoked asap, both of which would have made a Scottish referendum inevitable. Neither happened. I'd suggest it was the Leave camp and now the Conservative govt that are playing games with credibility. Sturgeon has laid all her cards out very publicly on the table thus far.

Seen elsewhere
I agree. ^^^^ and as time moves on, it's also looking more and more likely that the UK won't be leaving the EU in any sort of hard Brexit fashion. ( sorry Clapton )

Nice try. But Brexit was the big one.

Nicola has been maneuvering the debate and implying "If the UK vote Brexit we'll vote for Indy" She's traipsed across Europe meeting EU leaders and made a big shout about how important the EU is for Scotland.

She hasn't been off the TV for months drumming up support - and you're still languishing at below 50%.

The SNP's biggest chance for Indy for the foreseeable future, and the Scottish people just don't want to know.