The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

mollycat

Herzlos wrote: »

None of them have been on the internet.

Curiously, the only strong No voter I know votes based on his football team.

Aaah, now I can see why you are so predudiced and misinformed....

What's life like in that WM hating echo chamber?

Shakethedisease

Moby wrote: »

I agree with you on this but what about the border with England if a newly independent Scotland joins the EU?

EFTA or similar immediately after independence negates a hard border and facilitates a transition period. This short transition period would allow a GE whereby Scottish political parties can either advocate staying that way or applying to join the EU as a fully fledged member. Either Scotland gets the Norway version or full EU membership. The border with England and the consequences of either choice will be decided upon then.

I guess if not having a hard border is important to Scots voters they'll decide to stay in EFTA/EEA rather than fully join the EU. Bear in mind that England and Wales will have far more to worry about what with having another 27 hard borders to contend with. The border is a matter for after independence, not a reason not to vote for it. The border comes under the heading I mentioned above as "fear, threats and doom'. It's just about all that's left in the unionist playbook.

SpiderLegs

Shakethedisease wrote: »

EFTA or similar immediately after independence negates a hard border and facilitates a transition period. This short transition period would allow a GE whereby Scottish political parties can either advocate staying that way or applying to join the EU as a fully fledged member. Either Scotland gets the Norway version or full EU membership. The border with England and the consequences of either choice will be decided upon then.

I guess if not having a hard border is important to Scots voters they'll decide to stay in EFTA/EEA rather than fully join the EU. Bear in mind that England and Wales will have far more to worry about what with having another 27 hard borders to contend with. The border is a matter for after independence, not a reason not to vote for it. The border comes under the heading I mentioned above as "fear, threats and doom'. It's just about all that's left in the unionist playbook.

Ah so E&W will have to worry about hard borders with the rest of the EU but not Scotland.

How does that work?

baldelectrician

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Ah so E&W will have to worry about hard borders with the rest of the EU but not Scotland.

How does that work?

I'm not worried about a border between Scotland and former UK (fUK)

We need to be prepared to accept refugee businesses that still want access to the EU single market as well as open minded people who want to live in a fairer more progressive country.

Herzlos

mollycat wrote: »

Aaah, now I can see why you are so predudiced and misinformed....

What's life like in that WM hating echo chamber?

Not I said only strong no voter, I now plenty who would have voted no before but haven't said or are fairly neutral. The only die hard and loud no voter is a football unionist.

Shakethedisease

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Ah so E&W will have to worry about hard borders with the rest of the EU but not Scotland.

How does that work?

Because Scotland would still be in the Single Market ? England/Wales won't so will have all hard borders with just about everyone. EFTA means Scotland could do a separate trade deal with England/Wales. Being fully in the EU means Scotland would have the same border the EU does.

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Being fully in the EU means Scotland would have the same border the EU does.

At least we'd have somewhere to spend our left over holiday Euro's.

SpiderLegs

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Because Scotland would still be in the Single Market ? England/Wales won't so will have all hard borders with just about everyone. EFTA means Scotland could do a separate trade deal with England/Wales. Being fully in the EU means Scotland would have the same border the EU does.

Well that’s brilliant.
Why has nobody mentioned this before???? I think you should crack on and have that vote ASAP.

foxtrotoscar_2

Who was the First Minister who said up front and publicly 'Judge me on education'? She's failed so why has she not resigned...is she not a woman of her word?

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

No. You're wrong I'm afraid. It's not social media colouring views. It's proper real live polling and expert analysis.

I intentionally hide my intentions. :shhh: