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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • Discussing the allegations on FIVE separate occasions shows a distinct lack of judgement by the witch on a stick...this kills any chance of the SNP winning a second referendum any time soon
  • .this kills any chance of the SNP winning a second referendum any time soon

    The next referendum, when it comes, won't be about the SNP.

    It'll be about Scotland's place in the EU.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Nasqueron
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    The next referendum, when it comes, won't be about the SNP.

    It'll be about Scotland's place in the EU.


    This is the weird thing I see with Scotland.


    IF there is a second vote (the UK government has to agree to it and the SNP already said it was a once in a generation vote) SNP will be running on a pro-EU stance. Scotland has made it clear they want more control and don't like Westminster running everything but then want to apply to join the EU where it'll be the same but with EU running matters. Plus taking the Euro and paying into the coffers of the EU rather getting money back...



    If Scotland wants to be independent and have self control, why not run on the platform of EEA membership like Norway?

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • Labsuper
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    The next referendum, when it comes, won't be about the SNP.

    It'll be about Scotland's place in the EU.



    No, it will be about Scotland's place in the UK. The EU will be an irrelevance.
  • Nasqueron wrote: »
    This is the weird thing I see with Scotland.


    IF there is a second vote (the UK government has to agree to it and the SNP already said it was a once in a generation vote)
    Hogwash
    SNP will be running on a pro-EU stance. Scotland has made it clear they want more control and don't like Westminster running everything but then want to apply to join the EU where it'll be the same but with EU running matters. Plus taking the Euro and paying into the coffers of the EU rather getting money back...
    Let me explain that to you in one very simple picture. And also yes, the next vote will most likely include an EEA/EFTA option.



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    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • And Northern Ireland. The UK used to include the whole of Ireland, but chopping off 2/3 of Ireland didn't make any difference to the UK constitutionally, just a wording change from "Ireland" to "Northern Ireland".
    The United Kingdom is Scotland and England ( + Wales). 1707 and all that. It used to include Ireland but that didn't last very long and only NI remains.
    You could similarly replace "Great Britain" with "Britain", or perhaps "England and Wales" to be more explicit, and the result would still be a union of several kingdoms.
    Great/Britain is geographical not political. Scotland would still be part of Great Britain even after independence due to simple geography. The same can't be said of the UK.. which of course will no longer exist. Perhaps with England/Wales becoming known as fUK ?
    United Kingdom, on the other hand, is purely a political term: it’s the independent country that encompasses all of Great Britain and the region now called Northern Ireland.
    https://www.britannica.com/story/whats-the-difference-between-great-britain-and-the-united-kingdom

    Note region of Northern Ireland. It was never a Kingdom.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Years since I've been on here

    Anything changed ?
    Left is never right but I always am.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Years since I've been on here

    Anything changed ?

    Nope. Will rumble on and on to the next generation.
  • Ok. As you all were then
    Left is never right but I always am.
  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,182 Forumite
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    Years since I've been on here

    Anything changed ?

    Shakey says the polls show a stunning victory for Yes this time. She has graphics and everything.
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