The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

antrobus

baldelectrician wrote: »

...We live in a democracy (look it up) where one parliament cannot bind future parliaments (for example Tony Blair could not rule out a referendum on Indy as the next government may have something in their manifesto....

The SNP also got a higher share of the Scottish vote than the Conservatives did across the UK (bear in mind the Conservatives are in the UK government with a lower share of the UK vote than the SNP got in Scotland.)

The UK constitution is a reserved matter. The Scottish Parliament has no power to hold a referendum on independence. The SNP could put a commitment to grant every Scottish resident free entry to Universal Orlando Resort on Burns Day or whatever in its manifesto. The Scottish Parliament could pass the Universal Orlando Resort Act implementing this freebie. Or any such tomfoolery. Comcast, whom I believe is the owner, can just laugh and ignore it.

Only the UK Parliament can legislate for a referendum.

baldelectrician

antrobus wrote: »

The UK constitution is a reserved matter. The Scottish Parliament has no power to hold a referendum on independence. The SNP could put a commitment to grant every Scottish resident free entry to Universal Orlando Resort on Burns Day or whatever in its manifesto. The Scottish Parliament could pass the Universal Orlando Resort Act implementing this freebie. Or any such tomfoolery. Comcast, whom I believe is the owner, can just laugh and ignore it.

Only the UK Parliament can legislate for a referendum.

Do you not agree with Ruth Davidson in the video above?
The Ruth, the whole Ruth and nothing but the Ruth.

She says that if there is a majority of yes parties in the Scottish Parliament then a referendum should be granted

Arklight

baldelectrician wrote: »

Do you not agree with Ruth Davidson in the video above?
The Ruth, the whole Ruth and nothing but the Ruth.

She says that if there is a majority of yes parties in the Scottish Parliament then a referendum should be granted

Except they won’t vote for one themselves because they know when it actually goes to the polls the result will be no. Again.

baldelectrician

Arklight wrote: »

Except they won’t vote for one themselves because they know when it actually goes to the polls the result will be no. Again.

The Scottish Parliament HAS voted in favor of a referendum (the Greens and the SNP have over half the seats together) and it has been knocked back.

So your above post is factually incorrect, I look forward to your correction.

Arklight

baldelectrician wrote: »

The Scottish Parliament HAS voted in favor of a referendum (the Greens and the SNP have over half the seats together) and it has been knocked back.

So your above post is factually incorrect, I look forward to your correction.

And I bet there was a sigh of relief then :rotfl:

loadsacash

Arklight wrote: »

And I bet there was a sigh of relief then :rotfl:

You bet there was - Nicola Sturgeon is trying to keep Yes voters happy while kicking Indy 2 into the long grass - If there is another No vote, she will have to do the same as Alex Salmond and resign - she expected a Surge for Independence after the EU referendum. That still has not come.

Thrugelmir

loadsacash wrote: »

she expected a Surge for Independence after the EU referendum. That still has not come.

Because she cannot offer EU membership as a carrot. Which poses a real challenge. The domestic economy needs to be her priority. Until self sufficient there'll remain too many unconvinced by the economics. Whatever there feeling in their hearts. Bottom line will always be the practicalities.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

For those that don't know, Billy Connolly has always been pretty strongly pro-union.... Brexit really does change everything.

Rainbowgirl84

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

For those that don't know, Billy Connolly has always been pretty strongly pro-union.... Brexit really does change everything.

It really doesn't. BC's opinion is but one mans only. Scotland will be up shit street without paddle without the union...It does 10x more business with England than the EU yet the SNP is insistant on FREEDOM! No logic.

zagubov

Rainbowgirl84 wrote: »

It really doesn't. BC's opinion is but one mans only. Scotland will be up shit street without paddle without the union...It does 10x more business with England than the EU yet the SNP is insistant on FREEDOM! No logic.

It's got vastly more potential customers in the EEA +Switzerland than it has in the UK. It'll force Scotland to get its act together, and from what I know of the Scots and their resourcefulness, they'll rise to the challenge.