The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shakethedisease

antrobus wrote: »

Because London is in England.

London produces a whacking big surplus.

Shakes head. Not even a smidgin of common sense.:)

So it's Scotland and the rUK against London then.. rather than Scotland compared to the UK ( where Scotland is counted twice anyway ). That alone makes GERS figures and comparisons to the UK redundant.
Scotland counted as a region of the UK stacks up quite well. Its when you try to apply mere regional estimates and figures to an independent country, all the problems with the accounting methods used start.

Meanwhile Mike's on his way to France...

Scotland to strengthen ties with EU despite Brexit, says Mike Russell

He will emphasise the Scottish Government’s opposition to a “deeply damaging” Brexit and its support for remaining in the EU single market and customs union.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/scotland-to-strengthen-ties-with-eu-despite-brexit-says-mike-russell-1-4790640

And

Brexit: No-deal 'risks break-up of UK' - Herman Van Rompuy

A no-deal Brexit could lead to the break-up of the UK, the ex-president of the European Council has warned.
Herman Van Rompuy told the Observer leaving the EU without a deal posed an "existential threat" to the UK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-45311646

antrobus

Shakethedisease wrote: »

So it's Scotland and the rUK against London then.. rather than Scotland compared to the UK...

Nope. The remainder of the UK seems disinclined to separate from London and the SE. Well, that's what I think anyway. The SNP could prove me wrong by putting up candidates in every constituency north of Watford and west of Reading at the next GE and sweep to power.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

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( where Scotland is counted twice anyway ). That alone makes GERS figures and comparisons to the UK redundant.

Everywhere is both a region and part of the UK. Everywhere is counted twice, It is your logic that is redundant.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

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Scotland counted as a region of the UK stacks up quite well. Its when you try to apply mere regional estimates and figures to an independent country, all the problems with the all the problems with the accounting methods used start...

I realise that you find it difficult to deal with GERS and that fiscal deficit. Independence is a tough sell when it has an £8.5 billion price tag.

But I do hope you realise that all your alleged ' problems with the accounting methods used' could equally mean that the true fiscal position will be even worse.

Please get a move on with this second referendum. We want to start spending that £8.5 billion on something else asap.

loadsacash

https://news.sky.com/story/alex-salmond-resigns-from-snp-after-harassment-claims-11485209

antrobus

loadsacash wrote: »

https://news.sky.com/story/alex-salmond-resigns-from-snp-after-harassment-claims-11485209

Ah, the gift that keeps on giving. If you're a unionist that is.:)

Me, I'm in the indy camp. Not that I've got a say in the matter.

Sturgeon, give me back my billions!

foxtrotoscar_2

You couldn't make it up. Wee Eck wants crowdfunding to pay for his Judicial Review.

elantan

Alex has resigned I see ... wonder how this will develop

Arklight

It’s a tragedy that proud Scots must see their noble quest for independence end like this, at the sticky hands of a serial fiddler.

Hasn’t that eejit in Bath got form for this too?

They are probably all at it.

Time to start voting Labour again.

elantan

where as I'm holding off judgement till after the court case

everyone is different I spose

and it's never bad enough to vote Labour

Shakethedisease

antrobus wrote: »

Nope. The remainder of the UK seems disinclined to separate from London and the SE. Well, that's what I think anyway. The SNP could prove me wrong by putting up candidates in every constituency north of Watford and west of Reading at the next GE and sweep to power.

There aren't any figures for England strangely enough. Just Wales, Scotland and NI.

Everywhere is both a region and part of the UK. Everywhere is counted twice, It is your logic that is redundant

It's not my logic but I can't be bothered finding the link.

I realise that you find it difficult to deal with GERS and that fiscal deficit. Independence is a tough sell when it has an £8.5 billion price tag.

But I do hope you realise that all your alleged ' problems with the accounting methods used' could equally mean that the true fiscal position will be even worse.

Please get a move on with this second referendum. We want to start spending that £8.5 billion on something else asap.

My problem is Brexit. GERS figures v's Brexit figures come 2020/21/22.... Which are going to be the worse for Scotland ? Brexit seems to be tough sell to half the UK in terms of economic and trade figures. On top of that, I certainly don't want stuck with another Tory govt like this one until 2025 or beyond.

As stated before Teresa won't grant a second Scottish referendum. While folks like you might be all for it, she and her Govt are too s**t scared of the possible result. They think they need Scotland holding their hands to get through leaving the EU. They're far, far too frightened of England and Wales going it alone poor dears. You'll be needing that 8.5 billion to quell riots and establish martial law once Asda runs out of bread and milk for a few weeks.

antrobus

Arklight wrote: »

It’s a tragedy that proud Scots must see their noble quest for independence end like this, at the sticky hands of a serial fiddler.

Hasn’t that eejit in Bath got form for this too?

They are probably all at it.

Time to start voting Labour again.

Salmond is the former SNP leader and an alleged fiddler, serial or otherwise.

Corbyn is the current Labour leader and a proven anti-semite. Leastways, that's what I think, and so does Frank Field.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45359009

I would hope that proud Scots would vote for anyone, even the Green Party, or Renfrewshire Communist Action rather than the pile of racist garbage Labour has become.