The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

cogito

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

..... the Brexiteers claimed was going to happen.

Did they? Show me.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

cogito wrote: »

Did they? Show me.

Ok then... :cool:

"The common travel area between the UK and Ireland predates our EU membership and will outlast it. The unique status Irish citizens are accorded in the UK predates EU membership and will outlast it.

There is no reason why the UK’s only land border should be any less open after Brexit than it is today.

There would be some risk of EU citizens entitled to enter Ireland travelling to the UK without a right to come here.

But we do not need to instigate border checks to manage that risk.."

~Theresa Villiers - Vote Leave campaign speech - April 2016

Shaka_Zulu

The SNP tail is trying to wag the UK dog.

SNP manifesto for the whole of the UK?

Seriously?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40086276

Shakethedisease

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

The SNP tail is trying to wag the UK dog.

SNP manifesto for the whole of the UK?

Seriously?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40086276

Well you've spent the last 12 months bleating that Scotland voted in the EU referendum as part of the UK so should suck it up. Now you're saying that the SNP, the political party, their MP's and their voters should all butt out of taking part in UK wide politics ?

Seriously ? Either get a grip or make up your mind what it's to be. You aren't going to save the union by freezing part of the UK and it's representatives out of UK politics with messaging such as yours.

Shaka_Zulu

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Well you've spent the last 12 months bleating that Scotland voted in the EU referendum as part of the UK so should suck it up. Now you're saying that the SNP, the political party, their MP's and their voters should all butt out of taking part in UK wide politics ?

Seriously ? Either get a grip or make up your mind what it's to be. You aren't going to save the union by freezing part of the UK and it's representatives out of UK politics with messaging such as yours.

Oh dear shakey.................

What you have in this manifesto the realisation that the SNP are powerless to effect any policies on their own. If they raise taxes unilaterally high earners will just move south of the border etc.

This manifesto sounds as if the Nats want to jump in to bed with the Labour party!

mollycat

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

The SNP tail is trying to wag the UK dog.

SNP manifesto for the whole of the UK?

Seriously?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40086276

I'm amazed at the way the mainstream media(print, radio and tv), don't completely rip their nonsensical manifestos up for toilet paper.

Afraid of being labelled un-PC methinks.

wotsthat

There should be no doubt following the publication of the SNP manifesto that the GE is a proxy referendum on whether there should be an independence referendum at the end of Brexit negotiations.

Shakethedisease

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

Oh dear shakey.................

What you have in this manifesto the realisation that the SNP are powerless to effect any policies on their own. If they raise taxes unilaterally high earners will just move south of the border etc.

This manifesto sounds as if the Nats want to jump in to bed with the Labour party!

Nope. The aim of the game as far as I'm concerned isn't for the SNP to help Labour 'win' an election. It's to stop the Tories getting a majority. There's a difference between the two.

And anyway, most of Corbyns/ Labour's manifesto has been nicked from the SNP. Is not like the SNP can complain about their policies given some of them have been standard practice in Scotland for years.

Shakethedisease

wotsthat wrote: »

There should be no doubt following the publication of the SNP manifesto that the GE is a proxy referendum on whether there should be an independence referendum at the end of Brexit negotiations.

Well, I guess the other parties in Scotland can be forgiven for pushing that particular agenda. But the truth is that holding a second referendum at the end of Brexit talks has already been voted through by the Scottish Parliament. This GE is only going to endorse the Scottish Parliament's wishes further.

Both Dugdale and Davidson had a terrible time on the Scottish Sunday morning politics shows trying to explain exactly why the Scottish Parliament they both sit in, doesn't seem to have a democratic mandate just because they don't like something voted through. They had NO answers to that question and repeatedly kept falling back to the tired old 'but the people don't want... '. This question is getting asked more and more.

kabayiri

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Well you've spent the last 12 months bleating that Scotland voted in the EU referendum as part of the UK so should suck it up. Now you're saying that the SNP, the political party, their MP's and their voters should all butt out of taking part in UK wide politics ?
...

The SNP aren't a UK wide party.

They don't compete in seats outside Scotland.

If they don't compete in my seat, I have every right to ignore both them and their manifesto.

They are a regional minority party.