The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Yah_Boo_Sux

I can see why my family north of the border so dislike the SNP.
Thank *whoever* they're limited to Scotland.

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Another post about ? ? ? ? ? ?

Take the advice given.
Stop.
You look more than a little foolish.

The not-so-subtle attempts to include anything even hinting at being relevant to the thread aren't helping your cause, either.
Just stop.

I was courteously responding and then tried to get back on topic with a response to your post about the Danish Investment in the Highlands.

Do you have any comment on the fact that the Scottish Government's economic and community development agency is supporting this inward investment?

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Have you worked out why Scotland's GDP is falling whilst employment is growing yet?

Not yet, I'm sure that is going to be quite a deep analysis required.
Do you have any suggestions?

Certainly CorporateHealth International ApS investment is a nice sign

TrickyTree83

Shakethedisease wrote: »

For what ? More SNP votes than Tory ones ?

She's not waiting on June 8th. She's stalling for time, and moving the goalposts in order to deny already given public consent via the Scottish electorate at the Scottish Parliament. Sturgeon will no doubt simply stale mate her by putting the same sort of thing in her own manifesto, and it's all going to come to a head sooner rather than later after June 8th.

She's waiting for the Scottish electorate to deliver a damning anti-independence vote on June 8th. "Now is not the time" will change to "The Scottish voters have made it clear that they do not want a 2nd independence referendum, regardless of the machinations of the SNP and Scottish Greens".

Then, no means no, until the next big vote, which will be the Scottish elections. At which time I fully expect to see the SNP lose even more seats at Holyrood, Greens too, and for there to be a unionist party in charge with support rather than a coalition from the other unionist parties. It's clear from what's happening at the local level that the people in Scotland want that to happen to block the SNP and get Scotland back on an even keel, great in terms of certainty for the good of the economy.

As before, the SNP may crow about being the largest party on June 8th, but on the topic of independence which transcends party politics, the unionist vote share will outweigh the nationalist vote share, and we'll be free to carry on our lives until 2021 without having to pretend Nicola Sturgeon's dream is important anymore.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Yah_Boo_Sux wrote: »

I can see why my family north of the border so dislike the SNP.
Thank *whoever* they're limited to Scotland.

:T

Quite so.
Many non-SNP on here though, & that's what some in this thread don't like.
As .string very correctly said:

.string. wrote: »

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It's interesting to see these two techniques of SNP debate.

The first ................. is the technique of belittling anyone with a different view; well that's rather familiar I think.

But has anyone noticed the second, which is recurrent on SNP-speak: it is in the words "her one policy"?

If the SNP are accused of lying, they immediately start calling everyone else liars

If economic experts say that the SNP economic policy is rubbish, they find some economic expert to day the opposite and claim all the other experts a rubbish

If someone complains about intimidation by SNP louts, they scour the web for Unionist louts

If it is pointed out that joining the EU means loosing Scotland loosing control of Fishing, they accuse Westminster of stealing the fishing rights oblivious to the number of reassurances given.

If someone calls them trolls, they call others trolls in retaliation

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The fuzzy copycat politics goes on and on and on.


Transparently pathetic really. The messages get more and more shrill, a steady progression from a cause for a principle to sordid fanaticism.

Nail.
Head.
Fanaticism, pure and simple.

Like this:

Labour leader Kezia Dugdale has revealed that that she is facing demands for a £10,000 payout from a pro-independence blogger after she accused him of “homophobic” abuse.


Ms Dugdale told MSPs at First Ministers Questions today that she had “called out” Stuart Campbell of the Wings Over Scotland website in a newspaper column for “homophobic comments” he had made about the Tory MSP Oliver Mundell.


“Mr Campbell has written to me, via his lawyers, to demand a £10,000 payment for and I quote ‘damage to reputation,’” Ms Dugdale said.


The Labour leader continued; “I stand firmly by my comments. I’ve never kow-towed to a bully and I will not start today.

“There is a catalogue of evidence that demonstrates the bile that Stuart Campbell appears to believe is acceptable.”

http://www.scotsman.com/news/wings-over-scotland-demands-10k-over-kezia-dugdale-column-1-4449833

A_Medium_Size_Jock

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Do you have any comment on the fact that the Scottish Government's economic and community development agency is supporting this inward investment?



Not yet, I'm sure that is going to be quite a deep analysis required.
Do you have any suggestions?

Certainly CorporateHealth International ApS investment is a nice sign

Supported or incentivised?
£600,000 grant, eh?


I won't hold my breath whilst you (inwardly, I hope) debate the GDP question.

IveSeenTheLight

Shakethedisease wrote: »

For what ? More SNP votes than Tory ones ?

She's not waiting on June 8th. She's stalling for time, and moving the goalposts in order to deny already given public consent via the Scottish electorate at the Scottish Parliament. Sturgeon will no doubt simply stale mate her by putting the same sort of thing in her own manifesto, and it's all going to come to a head sooner rather than later after June 8th.

I was just about to say the same

Election 2017: Tory manifesto says 'public consent' needed for indyref2

The thing is, its a vague position to take.
What constitutes "public consent"?

Surely if the SNP return as the majority party in Scotland that is a clear indication of public consent for the referendum (its just a question) to be granted.

The problem is that once again, the conservatives is making the General Election about Independence and not what it should be about.

Shameful politics

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Courted or bribed?
£600,000 grant, eh?

So it was a good news story about investment despite Brexit, but once it was pointed out how the Scottish Government supported this investment its now being twisted negatively.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

So it was a good news story about investment despite Brexit, but once it was pointed out how the Scottish Government supported this investment its now being twisted negatively.

Is that your argumentative way of saying you don't want to answer that?

TrickyTree83

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I was just about to say the same

Election 2017: Tory manifesto says 'public consent' needed for indyref2

The thing is, its a vague position to take.
What constitutes "public consent"?

Surely if the SNP return as the majority party in Scotland that is a clear indication of public consent for the referendum (its just a question) to be granted.

The problem is that once again, the conservatives is making the General Election about Independence and not what it should be about.

Shameful politics

You need to stop pinning your hopes on the SNP being the largest party as some kind of justification for independence being the will of every Scottish voter that takes part in the general election on June 8th. It's not.

Being the largest party in Scotland does not mean that they can drive policy in Westminster either, the opposite, it's a completely wasted vote for the SNP in the UK general election.

You don't like that this general election is about independence in Scotland, well I propose that the chickens have come home to roost on this one. The SNP constantly going on about independence as a solution (despite having no answers when it comes to the detail) have made Scotland into a one issue region. How awful for the people who live there. So now that a unionist party has taken the gloves off and is going for the jugular, and gaining traction, you don't like it. So now (I think unanimously amongst indy posters on this thread) this particular vote is not indicative of feeling toward independence despite every other damn vote we've had since the 00's according to nationalists has been.

You don't get to do that. Your people set the rules of the game and you don't like that you're going to be beaten at it. Like taking your ball home because you're losing, you're looking for a way out but there isn't one to be had. June 8th is a defacto referendum on having another independence referendum, Sturgeon has been outmanoeuvred in spectacular fashion.

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Is that your argumentative way of saying you don't want to answer that?

I'm not in a position to answer, sorry.

However if the "court / bribe" as you put it attracts inward investment and growth opportunities at a time when we also hear that Background: Automation poses a high risk to 1.2m Scottish jobs, report says, then surely that is a positive thing.

I just don;t understand why you flip flopped from it being positive to negative just because it was pointed out that the Scottish Government (SNP) help to achieve that inward investment