The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

And again:


You will get the message.
One day.

It's ok, I get the message.

You don't want a debate, you want a one sided agreement.

I'll ignore the Troll from now on

Yah_Boo_Sux

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

It seems criticised for not putting up the rate, criticised for looking into it.
It's a no-win situation from some it seems

Did you not read this bit

[/Q“Increasing taxes will punish workers, harm the economy and raise less money, and the SNP would be making a huge mistake if it adopted this policy.” “There may only be around 17,000 Additional Rate taxpayers in Scotland but collectively they contribute around 14% of total income tax revenues. These individuals, and their wealth, is very mobile and any move to increase the Additional Rate of Income Tax may well be counterproductive in terms of the Scottish Government’s desired effect on tax revenues. Many Scottish taxpayers are already paying more to the government than equivalent earners elsewhere in the UK. Instead of threatening tax hikes, the Scottish Government should instead be doing its level best to make Scotland as attractive as possible to the investment and talent that we require to get our economy back on track.”

Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/high-earners-could-face-50p-tax-rate-in-scotland-next-year-1-4443483UOTE]

It was said earlier by Jock that Sturgeon should be encouraging more; this says the same.
You deny that is possible.
Which is right then because I know which I believe.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

It's ok, I get the message.

You don't want a debate, you want a one sided agreement.

I'll ignore the Troll from now on

I will be happy if you stop trolling.
As will others.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Just ignore ISTL. It's a forum pile on and responding to them all will just derail the thread ( which is what they want to do ).

It is very easy to see who is trying to derail the thread.
As others besides myself have said.
On more than one occasion, too.

Shakethedisease

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

Labour’s evaporation in Scotland reinforces my view that the Scots face an enviable choice on June 8, and one which makes the general election there more exciting than perhaps anywhere else in the Kingdom.

A straight choice between the SNP and the Tories isn’t one between nationalism and Unionism, because only a referendum can decide that; and the chance of one deciding to change the status quo in the present climate are, as Nicola Sturgeon well knows, nil.

It is a choice between a hardline, confiscatory and redistributive socialism that borders on Bolshevism, and a liberal conservatism that champions private enterprise, aspiration, prosperity and efficiency.

Voters should also notice how badly the SNP run public services, notably education. To takes seats off the SNP now will prove that the Sturgeon ideal of a Scottish republic with her as Queen has been effectively put in the dustbin,..............

Trivial fact, but do you know in the last two weeks in the run up to the 2010 GE there was a big anti-Tory swing back to Labour in Scotland as the electorate and SNP voters saw voting Labour as the best way to keep the Tories out ? The SNP were gutted as they had expected to pick up 20 seats but didn't due to the last minute swing in voter intentions.

The situation is reversed now.

IveSeenTheLight

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Just ignore ISTL. It's a forum pile on and responding to them all will just derail the thread ( which is what they want to do ).

It's ok, I've been here a lot longer than them and know what some can be like

Anyway, anyone have a topic from today they wish to discuss

I notice Theresa May is a hit on the streets
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4496746/Hilarious-moment-voter-ignores-Theresa-May.html

Shakethedisease

Yah_Boo_Sux wrote: »

Did you not read this bit

[/Q“Increasing taxes will punish workers, harm the economy and raise less money, and the SNP would be making a huge mistake if it adopted this policy.” “There may only be around 17,000 Additional Rate taxpayers in Scotland but collectively they contribute around 14% of total income tax revenues. These individuals, and their wealth, is very mobile and any move to increase the Additional Rate of Income Tax may well be counterproductive in terms of the Scottish Government’s desired effect on tax revenues. Many Scottish taxpayers are already paying more to the government than equivalent earners elsewhere in the UK. Instead of threatening tax hikes, the Scottish Government should instead be doing its level best to make Scotland as attractive as possible to the investment and talent that we require to get our economy back on track.”

Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/high-earners-could-face-50p-tax-rate-in-scotland-next-year-1-4443483UOTE]

It was said earlier by Jock that Sturgeon should be encouraging more; this says the same.
You deny that is possible.
Which is right then because I know which I believe.

It's a pretty easy concept to grasp. If the UK puts up the top rate to 50p the SNP will support wholeheartedly. But the poisoned chalice of putting up taxes to 50p in Scotland alone would be a terrible idea while Scotland remains in the Union. Folks would just change addresses for 'tax purposes' and all too easily and Scotland could lose rather than gain. Not worth the risk at the present time.

People in Scotland are currently paying the exact same taxes as they did last year.

Shaka_Zulu

While a number of areas of concern were highlighted in a specialist independent report into whether the Scottish Government’s much-criticised IT system for the delivery of farm support payments was fit for purpose, it was claimed yesterday that there was no need to “move to plan B” and start again from scratch.

A stormy meeting of the Scottish Parliament’s rural economy committee danced around the report’s findings, claiming that proper scrutiny of the report had been hampered by the fact that the full findings were being kept under wraps due to “commercial sensitivities”.

Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/business/companies/farming/msps-claim-scrutiny-of-farm-it-fiasco-being-hampered-1-4442792

IveSeenTheLight

Yah_Boo_Sux wrote: »

Did you not read this bit

[/Q“Increasing taxes will punish workers, harm the economy and raise less money, and the SNP would be making a huge mistake if it adopted this policy.” “There may only be around 17,000 Additional Rate taxpayers in Scotland but collectively they contribute around 14% of total income tax revenues. These individuals, and their wealth, is very mobile and any move to increase the Additional Rate of Income Tax may well be counterproductive in terms of the Scottish Government’s desired effect on tax revenues. Many Scottish taxpayers are already paying more to the government than equivalent earners elsewhere in the UK. Instead of threatening tax hikes, the Scottish Government should instead be doing its level best to make Scotland as attractive as possible to the investment and talent that we require to get our economy back on track.”

Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/high-earners-could-face-50p-tax-rate-in-scotland-next-year-1-4443483UOTE]

It was said earlier by Jock that Sturgeon should be encouraging more; this says the same.
You deny that is possible.
Which is right then because I know which I believe.

I did read it all.
I deny what is possible? I said that we do not have the full autonomy to make a balance budget and strategic policy.
We have one hand tied behind our backs.

Such as corporation tax as I said earlier.
It's entirely possible that a lower rate of corporation tax could attract more businesses and increase revenue.

Shaka_Zulu

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Trivial fact,

Don't talk nosnsense perhaps there was perhaps there wasn't but one thing is for sure is isn't a fact.

Oh the desperation


Desperate Shakey and Spamming I can't find the light switch! :rotfl: