The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shakethedisease

mollycat wrote: »

Can I second this please?:)

No. You're not a moderator.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

Whatever mandate there might be it's indeed concerning the request, to pretend it is otherwise is to disrespect the rights of the other party to the Union.

But I still question whether the vote in the Scottish Parliament is legitimate on the grounds of a mandate.

The SNP had weazle words in their manifesto as a footnote and there were assurances by Sturgeon at the time about a Referendum only being held if the Scots wanted one,

but

Leaving that aside the Referendum vote which gained the Scottish Par!iament approval did so only with the support of the Green Party who went against their manifesto and pledges at the time. They had no mandate, quite the reverse, and thus there is no Electoral mandate for the Parliamentary "Decision" whatever gloss the SNP put on their own claims.

There will never be a mandate big enough or good enough for you string. You might as well admit it.

Shakethedisease

Conrad wrote: »

Scotland wont be leaving, the UK is likely to get a free trade deal just as Brexiteers said day one;

Mr Barnier said the EU wants the negotiations with the UK to succeed.
"We will need to negotiate a 'bold and ambitious', but fair, free-trade agreement," he said.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39873618


Courtesy of setmefree

The Scottish Brexit minister isn't convinced and has admitted the Scottish Govt are making contingency plans.

Michael Russell also told MSPs there was a “high chance” the forthcoming Brexit negotiations would fail, and the Scottish Government was working on contingency plans.

He said any collapse would “probably happen sooner rather than later”, with the EU’s demand for a ‘divorce bill’ of between £50 and £85bn from the UK the most likely cause.

Giving evidence to Holyrood’s European and External Affairs Committee, Mr Russell said: “I think the chances of the UK not sticking with the negotiations are high. "I don't think they are necessarily 50 or 60 per cent but they're high… We would have to be prepared in those circumstances. We have a range of scenarios that we look regularly.

"You start probably with that issue and you work your way through hard Brexit with detriment to devolution, hard Brexit without detriment to devolution, moderate Brexit in which devolved powers are increased, through to independence, of course, which we believe is the offering that should be made.
"So we look at all of those and we have thought through some of the issues. But if there's going to be a collapse in negotiations it will probably happen sooner rather than later."

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15280019.SNP_minister__Brexit_will_be_such_a_disaster_UK_will_try_to_rejoin_EU/

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Shakethedisease wrote: »

He's not trolling. He's responding to your posts, which you expressly invite him to do by quoting his. Now back off with the all the personal attacks and truly silly trolling accusations. As far as I can see ISTL has been perfectly polite in his answers.

( ISTL there are some people it's best to just not respond to for a while as they seem not to be able to separate the topic under discussion from the people who post about them. It's a strange phenomenon but not usual on discussion boards ).

What a surprise that you would say that.
Not.
ISTL posted a large number of posts first, if you look.
So the contrary is in fact true; I am responding to ISTL's multiple posts.
Another description for those may be spam BTW.
We already know how much you wish no dissent was evident within these pages, don't we?
Which is why you yourself are often guilty of "clusterposting".


I may encourage others to report for spam if this continues and if they too feel it appropriate.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Shakethedisease wrote: »

No. You're not a moderator.

Ooh!
Welcome to "Shakeyworld" where you're not allowed to agree ....... unless it is with their point of view of course.

IveSeenTheLight

Yah_Boo_Sux wrote: »

One person insisting on doing all the posting?
Trolling, surely.
Is that encouraged here then?
:whistle:

The floor is open.
What would you like to talk about

Yah_Boo_Sux

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

The floor is open.
What would you like to talk about

Mostly I would like you just to stop posting the same old same old.
And so much of it.
Is that plain enough?

No wonder some get touchy. You're like the battery bunny, on and on and on regardless.

Now for something new: "Scottish politics has never been as divided as it is now and barely a day passes without more evidence that the parliament is failing"
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snps-promises-people-scotland-undelivered-10397529
Ouch!

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

*Yawn* do move on.

Now please stop trolling!

Lol, you don't like the question, even trying to change the question.
It's obvious you don't like the answer.

Oh and the bold, large font is not needed.

I'm not trolling, I'm just posting on a debate board.

Is the definition of a Troll, someone whom you don't like their opinions?

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

There will never be a mandate big enough or good enough for you string. You might as well admit it.

Don't be trite - Read my last paragraph again.

As far as I know it is correct to say that the Greens did not have a mandate and this unpicks the claim that the Scottish Parliament decision was mandated by the Scottish voters.

If I am wrong about the Greens, explain why.

IveSeenTheLight

Yah_Boo_Sux wrote: »

Mostly I would like you just to stop posting the same old same old.
And so much of it.
Is that plain enough?

Put me on ignore then you won't see what I post.
Happy to help