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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Ugh why...

    What the fu*k does this have to do with Scotland's position in the EU under their trade arrangements?

    Answer the question, do you think the rUK would want to impact the £65 Billion export to Scotland and the rUK jobs that this is based on?

    I don't think so, which is why the 500,000 jobs you say is at risk is moot as the £50 Billion Scottish export to rUK which this is based on is lower than the import from the rUK.

    You've also dismissed the types of export that rUK rely on from Scotland such as energy, food and water.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • kelpie35
    kelpie35 Posts: 1,789 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Whether, in your opinion or not SNP have a mandate for another referendum the clever people of Scotland. me being one of them, will never vote yes to independence.

    Also the clever people of Scotland can see right through Sturgeon and all her cronies for the disaster she has and is causing the people of Scotland.

    Come on Ruth you show all the intelligent people of Scotland how to run the Scottish Parliament.

    Go girl go
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    kabayiri wrote: »
    It's a good point, but you don't achieve full control unless you adopt your own currency.

    Using the pound is going to leave you hostage to rUK monetary policy.

    Using the Euro is going to bring in pretty onerous constraints from the EU, which might not be suitable for a fledgling independent nation.

    I think it's pretty easy to talk about 'control', but most Western governments are in a position where they need to retain external financial investment and cater for big business.

    I've seen how a truly global corporation works, and there is no doubt they leverage governments at any and every opportunity.

    You make some good points there too.
    I accept there are many challenges ahead.
    I accept that compromises from ideal situations may need to be implemented.
    These challenges don't deter me from believing solutions can always be found.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    kelpie35 wrote: »
    Whether, in your opinion or not SNP have a mandate for another referendum the clever people of Scotland. me being one of them, will never vote yes to independence.

    Also the clever people of Scotland can see right through Sturgeon and all her cronies for the disaster she has and is causing the people of Scotland.

    Come on Ruth you show all the intelligent people of Scotland how to run the Scottish Parliament.

    Go girl go

    Of course, there are always opinions on both sides
    You've asserted your opinion on the intelligence of the Scottish electorate a few times.

    I personally don't think it is very clever to dismiss the intelligence of individuals and whom as a collective

    It would appear that (in your opinion) there will be fewer clever people in Scotland than non clever people on June 08th.

    If so, why can't these self implied clever people persuade the electorate of Scotland?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    kelpie35 wrote: »
    Come on Ruth you show all the intelligent people of Scotland how to run the Scottish Parliament.

    Go girl go

    What is Ruth's policies?
    It seems to be simply to block the SNP at every opportunity.
    • To block policy on Education
    • To Block policy on Health
    • To Block policy on Infrastructure

    Ruth comes across as simply a Westminster puppet with 0 policies for Scotland

    So what does she stand for?
    First Minister questions was very interesting
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08rd4cm/scottish-first-ministers-questions-05052017

    If Education was any priority to the conservatives, their latest leaflet: -
    Mentions Nicola Sturgeon, the SNP or Independence 43 times
    Mentions Ruth Davidson or the Conservatives 9 times, one of those her signature
    Mentions their policies on Education 0 times

    In this election, the Tories haven't put forward a single policy on our schools, on social care, our roads, on transport on anything.

    They have a constitutional obsession

    especially from 8:15 - 9:16



    It seems Ruth Davidson literally considers an opposition party is there to oppose everything

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=72523275&postcount=9937
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    You make some good points there too.
    I accept there are many challenges ahead.
    I accept that compromises from ideal situations may need to be implemented.
    These challenges don't deter me from believing solutions can always be found.

    So what's your personal preference on currency then?

    Particularly, with the need for control. For example, I do not know the costs that would be involved in setting up a new currency. Do you?

    Hamish has stated before he firmly believes in the Euro, so is that your preferred option from the off?
  • Your wrong,
    I am not resting my hopes on the election and it appears to me that you are.

    Were going round the mulberry bush. The SNP and the Scottish government do have a clear mandate for another referendum.

    We are just waiting for the UK Government to stop procrastinating and give a formal yes or no to the question asked.
    No I am not.
    The Scottish SNP as pointed out numerous times currently have no clear mandate.
    Are you determined to spark another game of multiple-post pointless ping pong?
  • I cited the source before, I even repeated it and asked for your comment.
    This will be the last time I repeat again this source for you
    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/poll-shows-most-scots-would-10315662

    You seem to blank out information which you do not accept or agree with.
    Your source is not only OOD but only one of how many?
    Go on, tell us how many pro-independence results there have been in polls since the new year?
    Scots do not want another referendum.
  • Angry? Maybe... I'm sick of the bull and misdirection. I'm tired of having to repeat simple points made clear.
    Ditto.
    The point-blank refusal to accept fact shows some pro-indy posters on here for just what they are.
    Thankfully.
    :j
  • Which fact.
    I can accept fact, but I do also consider options.
    I'm not close minded
    Then why do you not accept that a majority of Scots do not want another referendum?


    Then so be it



    Context and relevance.
    I don't waste time on grammar, punctuation or spell correction on an irrelevant social media discussion board.
    Sadly it appears that you don't "waste time" on researching facts and figures either. As I say, "an indicator". ;)

    I admit my typing skills are not perfect.
    Forgivable. But ignoring when incorrect spelling is underlined .... in red ... ?????

    Anything of importance, which I publish would get due diligence in review.
    Not from evidence to date.

    Indication.
    Again, your repeated attempts to play the man as opposed the ball is an indication you are failing the argument
    And yet here in this post you are doing .... ?????

    Do you still want to do nothing more than clog up a thread with fatuous and mostly irrelevant obfuscation?
    If you persist you are indeed truly doing no more than trolling.
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