The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

1) Because selling fish via the Single Market means the UK having FOM. Ain't happening.

It ain't happening that the world is going to grind to a halt. There'll still be German sausage, Spanish fruit, French cheese, Italian wine, Dutch flowers in the supermarket. You'll still be able to buy a Mercedes, Audi, Ferrari, Renault, Ford, BMW, Seat, Citreon in your local car showrooms.........

zagubov

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Norway has been short of that point for decades.;)

Many countries have used the EFTA as an entrance hall for the EU, including founding countries like the UK for example. And others have joined EFTA and considered joining the EU and changed their minds, like Norway and Iceland. Or joined EFTA and have not the slightest intention of joining the EU like Switzerland and Leichtenstein.

Non-UN-member "countries" have had individual membership of EFTA since its founding half a century ago and had membership for many decades.

Presumably they could have had membership of the EEA and it wasn't lack of UN membership/recognition that held them back. Hey ho, life's a journey/rich tapestry/whatever.;)

cogito

Shakethedisease wrote: »

The SNP haven't been happy with the CFP either. And we might not rejoin the EU.. since Tricky says it will put ( at first at least ) exports and lots of jobs with rUK at risk ?

Scottish Fishermen aren't sure what to be at just now. They wanted a Brexit, but at the same time they still want to be able to sell their fish via the Single Market. It really is time they woke up to the plain fact that it's either or, they cannot have both.

Do they? Can you post a link to that?

It's interesting that you didn't deny that Nicola lied. Presumably you don't disagree about that.

kabayiri

.string. wrote: »

Yes me too. We are getting little to zero original thought from these SNP supporters, merely repetitions of second hand spin and pretence that there is nothing other than independence that matters or possible.

There is nothing to worry about. There won't be time for a Scottish exit from UK before A50.

We all know that.

PM May has outflanked parties like Labour and the SNP with this call of the GE.

People like Corbyn and Nicola are left with negative soundbites. She will use these against them in time.

The media focus will continue to shift towards Westminster and Brussels in the coming year, because that's where the important stuff will be happening.

Shakethedisease

kabayiri wrote: »

There is nothing to worry about. There won't be time for a Scottish exit from UK before A50.

We all know that.

There's plenty of time for a vote though. Once that happens and if its a Yes, A50 or not, May can cross every single Scottish based asset off the list to take forward after the UK leaves.

PM May has outflanked parties like Labour and the SNP with this call of the GE.

People like Corbyn and Nicola are left with negative soundbites. She will use these against them in time.

This GE is just 'something to get through' up here. It won't change anything much. Interestingly the SNP's campaign seems to be based on stopping Tory cuts. She's aiming for disaffected Labour voters rather than concentrating on any referendum issues which I think is a clever move.

The media focus will continue to shift towards Westminster and Brussels in the coming year, because that's where the important stuff will be happening.

Yes. Let's hope May comes back with a really fab deal for the UK. We'll all be watching.

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Yet you persist.
Why can you not accept fact?

Which fact.
I can accept fact, but I do also consider options.
I'm not close minded

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Politics has ALWAYS had political fallout - why should this maybe-sometime-never event be any different?

Then so be it

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Grammar - an indicator. Yours is not good. More-so when the auto-correct actually highlights errors for you and you ignore them.
:rotfl:
By your standards you really should proof read before you press that "submit ...".

Context and relevance.
I don't waste time on grammar, punctuation or spell correction on an irrelevant social media discussion board.

I admit my typing skills are not perfect.

Anything of importance, which I publish would get due diligence in review.

Indication.
Again, your repeated attempts to play the man as opposed the ball is an indication you are failing the argument

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

But why is Sturgeon not doing so now?

I've made my opinion of this known on numerous occasions.
I don't believe you can make a full and proper budget or strategy unless you have full control.

For example, Nicola Sturgeon has been targeted for not raising the highest income task which she has the power to do so, however the Scottish government may also want to strategically balance this and grow the economy by cutting corporation tax or by adjusting capital gains tax.

Can the Scottish government adjust these? No.

Only once full autonomy is achieved can any Scottish Government be held to account

kabayiri

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I've made my opinion of this known on numerous occasions.
I don't believe you can make a full and proper budget or strategy unless you have full control.
...

It's a good point, but you don't achieve full control unless you adopt your own currency.

Using the pound is going to leave you hostage to rUK monetary policy.

Using the Euro is going to bring in pretty onerous constraints from the EU, which might not be suitable for a fledgling independent nation.

I think it's pretty easy to talk about 'control', but most Western governments are in a position where they need to retain external financial investment and cater for big business.

I've seen how a truly global corporation works, and there is no doubt they leverage governments at any and every opportunity.

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Ah but I am not resting my hopes on the election.
YOU are.
We soon will see.
So far though the SNP has no clear mandate for another referendum.

Your wrong,
I am not resting my hopes on the election and it appears to me that you are.

Were going round the mulberry bush. The SNP and the Scottish government do have a clear mandate for another referendum.

We are just waiting for the UK Government to stop procrastinating and give a formal yes or no to the question asked.

IveSeenTheLight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Source?

I cited the source before, I even repeated it and asked for your comment.
This will be the last time I repeat again this source for you
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/poll-shows-most-scots-would-10315662

You seem to blank out information which you do not accept or agree with.