Deal Breakers in relationships

Southernman

Female

Deal breakers include:-

Smoking
Tattoos
Bad debt
Gambling
Football obsessed to the point where we are unable to spend any weekend quality time together because he is sat in front of the telly for the entirety
Morbidly obese - I'm into my fitness and love walking holidays
Someone who can't cook
Fussy eaters - including vegetarian/vegan

heuchera

BarryBlue wrote: »

Everything you have said there simply demonstrates what I have asserted. No matter how many people in the world subscribe to some form of belief system, it doesn't mean that any of it is anything more than man-made ideas that have been passed on in some way or another by older members of each society. The default without any of that is no knowledge of such information.

Nobody exists in a vacuum. All knowledge, pretty much, is passed down to us from someone else.

As for your last point, I would say without doubt that many religious folks regard themselves as superior in intellect. They love being on some sort of pedestal and tell others how to live their lives. Sadly they never prove it as they are never able to substantiate a word of it all, so fall at the first hurdle. Atheists have no need to thump tubs as all available evidence is on their side. The objections only begin when religions interfere with the lives of those who don't subscribe to them.

Religious people (at their worst) might believe they are morally superior, but not intellectually.

As for all available evidence being on the side of atheism, you can't prove the non-existence of something

Atheism is a set of beliefs, much like religions, in that respect.

Gloomendoom

onlyroz wrote: »

Probably not very many - but you wouldn't expect such people to be Christians or Muslims would you?

I wasn't expecting them to be anything. I was just curious.

However, I would hazard a guess it is more likely that you might come across a whole tribe of people who had been living in the wilderness and the chances of them being atheists is not high.

onlyroz

heuchera wrote: »

Atheism is a set of beliefs, much like religions, in that respect.

Atheism is the exact opposite of a set of beliefs.

onlyroz

Gloomendoom wrote: »

I wasn't expecting them to be anything. I was just curious.

However, I would hazard a guess it is more likely that you might come across a whole tribe of people who had been living in the wilderness and the chances of them being atheists is not high.

Yep, they've probably dreamed up some other explanation for why the sun rises in the morning instead.

One interesting theory is that religious belief is a by-product of a child's instinct to do whatever an adult tells them to do without question (e.g. "Stay away from the fire", or "Don't eat the red mushrooms", or "Listen to what the man in the dress tells you about Jesus").

heuchera

onlyroz wrote: »

Atheism is the exact opposite of a set of beliefs.

I don't know why people say this!

I suppose if you wanted to nit-pick you could define it as absence of a belief in the existence of deities, but that's just another way of saying they don't believe in deities.

Atheists are people who believe that god or gods (or other supernatural beings) are man-made constructs, myths and legends or who believe that these concepts are not meaningful.

onlyroz

heuchera wrote: »

I don't know why people say this!

I suppose if you wanted to nit-pick you could define it as absence of a belief in the existence of deities, but that's just another way of saying they don't believe in deities.

Atheists are people who believe that god or gods (or other supernatural beings) are man-made constructs, myths and legends or who believe that these concepts are not meaningful.

I think you're misunderstanding the meaning of the word "belief", which requires the acceptance of something without proof.

Atheists don't "believe" there is no god. They have simply decided that there is insufficient evidence for their existence. If such evidence were to present itself then the atheist would change their position.

Tigsteroonie

onlyroz wrote: »

Atheists don't "believe" there is no god. They have simply decided that there is insufficient evidence for their existence. If such evidence were to present itself then the atheist would change their position.

i thought that was an agnostic, as opposed to an atheist?

PuzzledDave

heuchera wrote: »

I don't know why people say this!

I suppose if you wanted to nit-pick you could define it as absence of a belief in the existence of deities, but that's just another way of saying they don't believe in deities.

Do you believe in the flying spaghetti monster ? No ? Then you have a set of beliefs in the flying spaghetti monster - right ? IMHO - No, and neither do atheists have a set of beliefs either.

Mr_Toad

Tigsteroonie wrote: »

i thought that was an agnostic, as opposed to an atheist?

Agnostics are perhaps best described as fence sitters. The don't believe in God but don't not believe. They refuse to commit because for then the truth is currently unknowable and in case, at some point, existence is either proven or not.

Atheists have come down on the side of not believing.

It's complicated but both would have to rethink if the existence of God were proven.