Does anyone want to join me waiting for new build to be built and complete

hollypop

baxt3r wrote: »

No ours is staying just brick. Some one the estate are rendered but mainly a white colour I think.


Ours is still the U shape with the sink under the window I believe. What reason have they given you for changing it?

Oh yes ours is staying brick too, its a shame as the rendered ones look lovely! but unfortunately we didn't get there in time to reserve one! never mind they are still lovely in brick!

Our front door and garage door will be painted green as all the others on the site are the same.

They gave us no reason for changing the kitchen, we just chose the kitchen then a week later got called back into the office and told it had changed to the L shape and it had already been ordered and nothing they can do - we we're pretty gutted - we did however get some free turf in the back garden for the inconvenience after we complained!
But if we did have the choice we'd much rather have had the original layout. A bit annoying I just hope they don't do things like this for anything else!

baxt3r

hollypop wrote: »

Oh yes ours is staying brick too, its a shame as the rendered ones look lovely! but unfortunately we didn't get there in time to reserve one! never mind they are still lovely in brick!

Our front door and garage door will be painted green as all the others on the site are the same.

They gave us no reason for changing the kitchen, we just chose the kitchen then a week later got called back into the office and told it had changed to the L shape and it had already been ordered and nothing they can do - we we're pretty gutted - we did however get some free turf in the back garden for the inconvenience after we complained!
But if we did have the choice we'd much rather have had the original layout. A bit annoying I just hope they don't do things like this for anything else!

Sorry, didn't realise you meant the doors and garage lol, read it quickly at work but yes they're being painted a green as well. Couldn't tell you what green though to be honest. I asked if I could change it but they wouldn't let me so i'll just repaint it when they've sold them all.


I'm not surprised your annoyed about the kitchen. Hasn't this made a difference in the total number of units? What are they doing with the space by the wall then? Struggling to picture it.


Have they said anything about letting you have a walk round anytime soon, I've not asked yet as still waiting to hear back today on exchange of contracts but planning to once this is done. No idea if they'll let us though.

Haylescom

Tygermoth it's really hard to judge sizes! When we took the pictures of just breeze block it seemed tiny, even though I know it's bigger than my current house. Looks so different once it's plastered.
Am I the odd one out then in terms of house type?! Awwww

Tygermoth

Haylescom,

I have a diffrent house type too

http://homes.trovit.co.uk/detached-3-bedroom-persimmon-homes-clayton

So two things today.

First a letter saying the build completion date has been pushed back to Oct. This would upset most people but as stated before this is good news for us.

The other is NOT good news and worries me somewhat. When we visited the site we were chatted to by a number of residents who confirmed they had large scale structural issues (not snagging stuff - big issues) and the builder was reticent in resolving them.

We chatted to the site staff and were upfront that we were worried . We discussed the issue and they said would be happy to allay our fears and have have our snagger and surveyor attend.

As you know, verbal promises mean nothing so our Sol requested that our surveyor be able to attend prior to completion within the contact.

Today Persimmons sols basically have told us no and that they will not alter the contact whatsoever (even for a long stop date) and if we don't like it we can lump it.

Which I believe flies in the face of their own consumer code.

:mad:

I was reluctant to post the above as i wasn't sure if this thread was just the positive aspects of buying a new build. if it is, that's fine

baxt3r

Tygermoth wrote: »

Haylescom,

I have a diffrent house type too

http://homes.trovit.co.uk/detached-3-bedroom-persimmon-homes-clayton

So two things today.

First a letter saying the build completion date has been pushed back to Oct. This would upset most people but as stated before this is good news for us.

The other is NOT good news and worries me somewhat. When we visited the site we were chatted to by a number of residents who confirmed they had large scale structural issues (not snagging stuff - big issues) and the builder was reticent in resolving them.

We chatted to the site staff and were upfront that we were worried . We discussed the issue and they said would be happy to allay our fears and have have our snagger and surveyor attend.

As you know, verbal promises mean nothing so our Sol requested that our surveyor be able to attend prior to completion within the contact.

Today Persimmons sols basically have told us no and that they will not alter the contact whatsoever (even for a long stop date) and if we don't like it we can lump it.

Which I believe flies in the face of their own consumer code.

:mad:

I was reluctant to post the above as i wasn't sure if this thread was just the positive aspects of buying a new build. if it is, that's fine

I can understand why your worried but at least you'll be covered under the NHBC. Also, surely if your surveyor finds an issue before completion then you can refuse to complete until everything's resolved, I'm sure in our contract that it says that they have to hand the property over without major works or similar. Seemed a standard term to be honest. Check with your solicitor though as you need to be 100% about where you stand.

Don't worry about posting this though, when I made my comment it was just that I'd read a number of posts where as soon as someone's mentions a new build you get people jumping on them with a ton of reasons why they would never buy one from overpriced, poor quality etc, all without really any real experience, knowing which builder or what we've paid. For me, this thread is best with people sharing their current experiences and what's going on whilst they're waiting to complete.

Keep us updated

Haylescom

What kind of structural problems did the residents tell you about? Surely like baxt3r says the NHBC covers you and a 2 year warranty.
I've heard of other people coming up against resistance to surveyors prior to completion but not sure they're allowed to refuse it? Have you spoken to your surveyor about it already? We've got a friend who works in the house building trade so we're going to take him with us and a list to check.

Tygermoth

Hi Baxt3r,

Thats the issue. They are not allowing us to have the property surveyed at all before completion.

Just the visit for the handover/familiarisation tour - but only us allowed to attend.

Not worrying to much yet we have our site visit on Thursday we will see what happens about the garage being in the wrong place and the back door missing. If we are not satisfied we will just pull out.

Its WAY too much money for us as FTB to be gambling with esp without protections or solid reassurances.

Tygermoth

Haylescom,

It was something to do with the how the roofs were put on. They did it wrong or outside tolerances so when the houses settled the roofs bowed and twisted. They advised its taken 2 years to get it sorted and the NHBC was as much use as a chocolate teapot.

People had to be moved out for months on end.

On the upside apparently the restoration costs were astronomical so hopefully that will make them more inclined to do better.

Having a friend in the housing trade much be a godsend!

baxt3r

Tygermoth wrote: »

Hi Baxt3r,

Thats the issue. They are not allowing us to have the property surveyed at all before completion.

Just the visit for the handover/familiarisation tour - but only us allowed to attend.

Not worrying to much yet we have our site visit on Thursday we will see what happens about the garage being in the wrong place and the back door missing. If we are not satisfied we will just pull out.

Its WAY too much money for us as FTB to be gambling with esp without protections or solid reassurances.

Ah ok, I thought it was just the amendment to the contract they wouldn't allow.

See what they say Thursday and find out their reasoning for refusing.

What type of issues did the other residents tell you about?

Haylescom

Found this on newbuildinspections.com
Says they should let you survey before completion but if they don't you still have cover:

When should the inspection be carried out?
The best time for your inspection is between contract exchange and legal completion. That way, the builder has chance to repair the snags before you move in. If it's not possible to carry out the inspection before legal completion, then it should be done as soon after completion as possible.

If you have an NHBC warranty, your inspection can take place at any point in the first 2 years after completion but remember that you only have a limited time period to report certain defects such as problems with glass or sanitary ware.

What if new snags come to light after the initial snagging?
The builder is liable to repair all defects identified in the first 2 years so there is no limit on the number of lists that can be submitted. If new defects become apparent, the original list can simply be updated and reissued.

Will the builder allow access for a snagging inspection before legal completion?
In 2010, the Consumer Code for Home Builders came into force. This puts an obligation on builders to "co-operate with appropriately qualified professional advisers appointed by the Home Buyer to resolve disputes." (clause 5.2) Certain builders say they have a policy of not allowing professional snagging inspections before legal completion, but we feel that this policy is not in the buyer's interests and when we checked with the Secretariat of the Consumer Code, they agreed that it goes against the ethos of the code.

If your builder denies access for an inspection before completion, ask them why not? What are they hiding?

In any case, if we have to do the inspection immediately after completion it doesn't change the builder's liability for the snags. It just makes it more difficult to repair them because they have to work around you and your furniture.