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Apple iPhone - Error 53 - Device Bricked

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  • Altarf wrote: »
    Yes, and in the process disabling a key security feature.

    And some people wonder why Apple has taken positive steps to stop this abuse.

    Please explain why TouchID is a key security feature when you dont even have to use it. Also how can it be a breach of security when the sensor stores no information.
  • AJXX
    AJXX Posts: 847 Forumite
    Please explain why TouchID is a key security feature when you dont even have to use it. Also how can it be a breach of security when the sensor stores no information.

    To be fair - although unlikely what's to stop someone creating a malicious sensor or altering the sensor in some way to cause some sort of attack on the device/record information.

    Yes the current sensor may not be able to do this, but who knows what may be possible.

    All they'd have to do is modify say 100 iPhones then sell them on into circulation - people who purchase them are not going to know any different.

    In your eyes it may not be a "key" part of the security, but it is part of the devices security none the less and with it being linked to payments etc... I can sort of see why Apple is taking a no bull**** stance on this.
  • AJXX wrote: »
    To be fair - although unlikely what's to stop someone creating a malicious sensor or altering the sensor in some way to cause some sort of attack on the device/record information.

    Yes the current sensor may not be able to do this, but who knows what may be possible.

    All they'd have to do is modify say 100 iPhones then sell them on into circulation - people who purchase them are not going to know any different.

    In your eyes it may not be a "key" part of the security, but it is part of the devices security none the less and with it being linked to payments etc... I can sort of see why Apple is taking a no bull**** stance on this.

    I can see that point, however once its replaced, unless its re-synced with the secure enclave the TouchID sensor dosent work and features like Apple Pay are automatically disabled.

    That's enough of a precaution by Apple to stop any potential security risk, however unlikely. To then go one step further and completely disable the entire handset seems totally unjustified.
  • Altarf
    Altarf Posts: 2,916 Forumite
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    Please explain why TouchID is a key security feature when you dont even have to use it. Also how can it be a breach of security when the sensor stores no information.

    Hilarious.

    So my front door lock isn't a security feature because I don't have to use it.

    Got any more jokes.
  • prowla
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    Not at all. This also happens using OEM parts.
    What's this thread about?
  • Altarf wrote: »
    Hilarious.

    So my front door lock isn't a security feature because I don't have to use it.

    Got any more jokes.

    Makes no sense at all.

    An iPhone has two security features:

    TouchID
    Passcode

    Users can use neither, one, or both. Your sceneio is like saying its ok for Apple to disable your phone if they find out you're using none of these features.
  • Altarf
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    Your sceneio is like saying its ok for Apple to disable your phone if they find out you're using none of these features.

    My view is that if you take your £600 piece of complex technology to a backstreet shop for a half-arsed job to fix it when you broke it, don't be surprised if Apple's software tries to prevent security breaches.
  • wealdroam
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    Altarf wrote: »
    My view is that if you take your £600 piece of complex technology to a backstreet shop for a half-arsed job to fix it when you broke it, don't be surprised if Apple's software tries to prevent security breaches.
    Do you think that preventing any use of the phone is a proportionate remedy?
  • NewShadow
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    paddyrg wrote: »
    The solution to the time zone problem appears to be to set the system time to the Unix epoch (aka the iPoch now - not going to give the exact date as some Muppet will surely try it) and kill your Apple phone in an entirely new way! (It's in the tech press today, if you're techie and puzzled)

    End of the world party 2038-1-18 my place ;)
    That sounds like a classic case of premature extrapolation.

    House Bought July 2020 - 19 years 0 months remaining on term
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    Goal: Keep the bigger picture in mind...
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