Apple iPhone - Error 53 - Device Bricked

JReacher1

wealdroam wrote: »

Well it certainly made a mockery of the abuse he threw my way. :rotfl:
I.e. post #11

I've read post 11 a few times now and cant see any part of it that could be classed as the poster throwing abuse at you.

Could you please quote the part of the quote where he has thrown this abuse?

AJXX

Bobcrowther wrote: »

Your inability to tell the difference between home button/phone screen and the fact that you wrote "mealy" instead of, I presume, "merely" has utterly destroyed your credibility in this thread IMO.

I don't particularly need "credibility" to argue my case here, the details of the sensor being paired to the CPU are available all over the internet for those interested to read up on - it's not something I've simply plucked from thin air.

As I stated, I read the OP incorrectly, basic mistake and I've apologised. That's hardly "inability to tell the difference", rather a misunderstanding regarding the hypothetical situation posted by the OP.

I utterly detest singling people out over poor spelling/grammar and I certainly don't claim to be an expert with it, so I'm not going to apologise for making a spelling mistake.

I certainly do appreciate you popping up here just to point out my spelling error and denounce my credibility to the entire thread, without actually contributing anything remotely useful to the discussion yourself...

wealdroam wrote: »

Well it certainly made a mockery of the abuse he threw my way. :rotfl:
I.e. post #11

How on earth was that "abuse"? If I've offended you then I can only apologise - you're a regular poster to this particular part of the forum and I have always respected your opinion, I fail to see how I have "abused" you in anyway?

Altarf

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Apple shouldnt brick someones device just because a 3rd party repair was carried out.

You are correct, Apple should not have designed the software to 'brick' the phone.

As people would have moaned at Apple if they ignored this security problem, what Apple should have done is implemented software that detects if the security protocols have been bypassed, and then disable any function that is impacted by the lack of security.

So obviously any payment methods should be turned off. Calls cost money, so the phone, text, and data functions need to be turned off. Photos, could be personal, so disable them. Contacts, the same.

So you could use the clock on your phone, oh wait a moment, the time zone setting may give away personal information, so lets turn that off as well.

paddyrg

The solution to the time zone problem appears to be to set the system time to the Unix epoch (aka the iPoch now - not going to give the exact date as some Muppet will surely try it) and kill your Apple phone in an entirely new way! (It's in the tech press today, if you're techie and puzzled)

powerful_Rogue

Altarf wrote: »

You are correct, Apple should not have designed the software to 'brick' the phone.

As people would have moaned at Apple if they ignored this security problem, what Apple should have done is implemented software that detects if the security protocols have been bypassed, and then disable any function that is impacted by the lack of security.

So obviously any payment methods should be turned off. Calls cost money, so the phone, text, and data functions need to be turned off. Photos, could be personal, so disable them. Contacts, the same.

So you could use the clock on your phone, oh wait a moment, the time zone setting may give away personal information, so lets turn that off as well.

But the security isnt being bypassed. They even have a setting to turn off TouchID if you dont want to use it.

They could easily have programmed it so that if a 3rd party sensor was detected, it would deactivate it and then fall back to using a passcode to enter your phone. To make a £600 handset worthless is complete overkill.

Altarf

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

But the security isnt being bypassed.

Security is being bypassed by the hamfisted repair where the TouchID isn't being linked to the phone.

powerful_Rogue

Altarf wrote: »

Security is being bypassed by the hamfisted repair where the TouchID isn't being linked to the phone.

It is being bypassed as its not being used. Just the same way you can turn off TouchID in the phone settings. TouchID is not primary security, the pin code is.

When TouchID is replaced with a 3rd party part, TouchID does not work, meaning services such as Apple Pay are disabled. Exactly the same as if you had turned it off in the settings. The replacement solely acts as a home button. The sensor also does not store any security information, thats all encrypted on the secure enclave.

Altarf

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

But the security isnt being bypassed.

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

It is being bypassed

Oh do make up your mind.

And there is not reason why when TouchID is replaced with a 3rd party part thay TouchID should not work, provided the repair was being done by someone who knew what they were doing.

If you bodge the repair, problems occur.

powerful_Rogue

Altarf wrote: »

Oh do make up your mind.

And there is not reason why when TouchID is replaced with a 3rd party part thay TouchID should not work, provided the repair was being done by someone who knew what they were doing.

If you bodge the repair, problems occur.

It was a simple mistype, quite common on forums.

TouchID does not work when replaced with a 3rd party part because it needs pairing with the secure enclave. Majority of repair shops will simply replace with the sensor with a standard home button because its cheaper for the consumer as they know TouchID will no longer function after the repair.

Altarf

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

TouchID does not work when replaced with a 3rd party part because it needs pairing with the secure enclave. Majority of repair shops will simply replace with the sensor with a standard home button because its cheaper for the consumer as they know TouchID will no longer function after the repair.

TouchID will work if repaired by someone who knows what they are doing.