Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer

Pyxis

silvercar wrote: »

Would that make your baby your sister?

No!

Remember that the person bearing the child is merely the surrogate. Just using their body to 'grow' the baby.

Genetically, it would still be the surrogate's grandchild, and the niece/nephew of any siblings the dead woman might have.

I really and truly do not see what the problem is!

No different, in my view, to her bringing up the baby of her daughter who died in childbirth. No-one would criticise her for that, or think that is weird!

bugslet

Pyxis wrote: »

No different, in my view, to her bringing up the baby of her daughter who died in childbirth. No-one would criticise her for that, or think that is weird!

Well one is natural and the other isn't, quite simply.

I'm possibly the wrong person for this as I've never had any desire to leave some DNA in the form of a child around! And prosaically, I do hope she can afford to bring the child up on her pension.

Pyxis

bugslet wrote: »

Well one is natural and the other isn't, quite simply.

I'm possibly the wrong person for this as I've never had any desire to leave some DNA in the form of a child around! And prosaically, I do hope she can afford to bring the child up on her pension.

Well, without knowing her financial position, I don't think we can comment.

Lots and lots of things 'aren't natural'! Doesn't make them wrong! :A

GDB2222

Pyxis wrote: »

No!

Remember that the person bearing the child is merely the surrogate. Just using their body to 'grow' the baby.

Genetically, it would still be the surrogate's grandchild, and the niece/nephew of any siblings the dead woman might have.

I really and truly do not see what the problem is!

No different, in my view, to her bringing up the baby of her daughter who died in childbirth. No-one would criticise her for that, or think that is weird!

My initial reaction was that this is seriously weird, but you've made me think about it quite a bit more. Clearly, medical advances are taking us into areas that are completely new, and our initial reactions are quite likely to be wrong.

I still have the following purely practical misgivings:-

1. This lady must be around 10 years past menopause. We don't really know what effect trying to get the rusty old machinery working again will have on her or the child. It would be more sensible if a surrogate mum of child-bearing age were found, instead of grandma.

2. "No different, in my view, to her bringing up the baby of her daughter who died in childbirth. No-one would criticise her for that, or think that is weird!"

I agree with that. However, that's making the best of a very sad situation. It's very different to deliberately bring a child into the world long after the daughter has died.

At 60, grandma is a bit old to run after a toddler, for example. Also, she has a better than 50/50 chance of dying or getting a disability by the time the child is 15. Is she really in a position to look after this child long-term?

3. It's expensive to bring up children. Is it fair to the child to try to do that on a pension? Edit: I see that point's already been discussed.

4. Grandma has lost her daughter, and the child will not bring her back. In fact, it will be a reminder of her loss every day.

ukmaggie45

Thursday afternoon OH and I went to GP practice to take part in research going on in Liverpool into lung health.

GDB2222

Maggie, if it's any help, I saw the doctor at around 11AM, and I was offered an MRI scan at 3PM the same day.

If they can't be sure, the doctors do tend to order further tests just to be on the safe side. Which is good, of course. And, if they have a free slot, they'll offer it.

Mine turned out clear in the end.

michaels

PasturesNew wrote: »

I would find it if you'd ever written anything interesting and disappeared.

That is the only reason I have never written anything interesting

DW has 75 no final value fee listings on eBay expiring today so that is my afternoon taken care off - shame we have about 3000 items of kids clothing to get rid of - not surprisingly most only warn about once or twice - did I mention her spending/hoarding issues?

ivyleaf

((HUGS)) Maggie - I hope what viva and GDB said is reassuring.

Spirit_2

DD and I did 5k race for life this morning. I "did it" for Gen. Hope the feelings make their way across the world x.DD did it for our friendwho we lost 3 years ago.


My gait set the pace. We came last. I was Ok with that as we had been followed by the back marker marshall for over half way. What I hadnt prepared for was a very public finish. We were the pair who had their names read out over the PA, a cheer from the remaining crowd and photos.

The attention had the effect of increasing my tone and making me stiffer.

It took us 1 hour 25 minutes. I was quite proud of myself . I think that we athletes term it a personal best.

Spirit_2

chris_m wrote: »

The best (funniest) book I've read about that was 500 Mile Walkies, by Mark Wallington. He'd never done much walking, nor camping, but he set off to do the South-West Coast Path with his dog Boogie and a set of borrowed equipment.
It was hilarious, but the best bits I remember were that every night the tent had a different number of corners. :rotfl:

I will get a copy of this. Sounds right up our street. Jake ( our visitor last night) sugessted to DD that when he is on the return leg she and her boyfriend join him to do the South Downs Way. They will think about it.

We made it onto Jakes VLOG last night. He was pretty ratted when he posted it. I can say we enjoyed the evening as much as he did.