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People pushing your speed in the dark

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  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    Sure let them pass but the OP should not be bullied or compelled to facilitate it. It is for the overtaker to make the decision when ,if and how to overtake and to do so in a safe and lawful manner.
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  • mgdavid
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    A wet road on a dark night full of sharp bends ...........

    why are you making stuff up?
    The OP never mentioned 'wet', nor that it was 'full' of sharp bends, only that there were some. It is very likely the bends were joined by straight sections, where an overtake would be possible with the consent of the slower car.
    Also the last time I looked, nights are usually dark; I wonder if they meant an unlit road? Overtaking on unlit roads can be easier than daytime, since you can see the lights of approaching cars (or lack of) more easily.
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  • Kaye1
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    I live in a very rural area and the potholes are shocking. For example, I know one road where there are two massive potholes within about 20 feet of each other. (I really mean massive)

    The speed limit is 60mph but I only ever go about 40mph on that stretch. (I have rung the council to no avail). No road lighting in the area.

    So, knowing this, do I

    a) pull over for the plonkers who tailgate me and let them hit it at 60mph, potentially causing a dangerous crash?

    b) put up with them tailgating me and putting me in danger because they can't wait?

    Genuinely, I don't know what the answer is. I tend to pull over as I usually have the kids in the car but I have direct experience of people close to me dying in car accidents caused by idiot driving. (One even went to court for death by dangerous driving.)

    So for the poster who criticised those who think they know best- well, what is for the best? I don't really know.
  • mgdavid wrote: »
    why are you making stuff up?
    The OP never mentioned 'wet', nor that it was 'full' of sharp bends, only that there were some. It is very likely the bends were joined by straight sections, where an overtake would be possible with the consent of the slower car.
    Also the last time I looked, nights are usually dark; I wonder if they meant an unlit road? Overtaking on unlit roads can be easier than daytime, since you can see the lights of approaching cars (or lack of) more easily.
    Just fancied it obviously :D ... or superimposing the last experience I had of being tail gated last in identical situation and it was raining and forgot to double check the OP.
    Mea culpa re nights being dark, lol. But I'm sure unlit was meant.
    But at the end of the day, if I can't let someone pass because it's an unlit road with lots of bends then I'm not doing it to be arsy, but because there is no where to do it safely.
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  • globalds
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    But the whole point is we are talking about a situation where there is no straight stretch of road.... and the driver behind in this situation is a problem because they are flashing lights and tailgating - extremely dangerous at any time but especially on a wet road full of sharp bends.


    See ..Just like with the driving ..You got to be right.

    No point arguing with you ..But don't be surprised if you keep finding people stuck behind your righteousness.
  • selement
    selement Posts: 518 Forumite
    Why is it safe to exceed the speed limit for an emergency? Isn't it putting you more at risk? I think the problem is rude impatient drivers not slow ones! I do get a little annoyed when people are going slower than speed limit but would never go right up close and flash lights it's just really rude. It'd make me more likely to make a mistake! Like beeping in unnecessary places, that puts me off more rather than makes me get a move on (this was more an issue when I was learning than now!)
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  • selement wrote: »
    I think the problem is rude impatient drivers not slow ones!

    It's both. Rude people that tailgate / flash and inconsiderate self-absorbed people driving slowly that don't pull over to let a queue of traffic past when they are driving well under the limit. It's not for other motorists to be the traffic police and determine how fast other road users can go. If I'm driving my old and rather slow van (0-60mph time measured on a calendar, not a stop watch, as it needs a favorable wind to make 60mph), I'll get out of the way if people are getting held up behind me. Why wouldn't I?

    Just because one person lacks confidence in their ability, perception or the ability of their vehicle to exceed a particular speed does not mean that other similarly lack confidence. If they don't pull over or slow down when an opportunity arise then they are just as inconsiderate as someone tailgating or flashing their lights.

    One curious thing that's happened to me a few times is people beeping their horns at me when I overtake them. This would be on a straight road with excellent visibility, they are usually doing about 35-40mph in a NSL single carriageway (so, 60mph limit an such can be comfortably achieved safely, indeed higher speeds could be attained in safety if the law permitted it), often driving a Hyundai i10 for some unfathomable reason and they seem to feel the need to alert me to their presence (the purpose of the horn) when I'm overtaking. What's that all about? Could anyone that beeps an overtaking driver please explain?
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  • Person_one
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    selement wrote: »
    Why is it safe to exceed the speed limit for an emergency? Isn't it putting you more at risk?

    Absolutely.

    Drivers for the emergency services get lots of training and regular updates to drive with lights and sirens on and break speed limits/traffic rules.

    Best to get a lift with them if its a genuine emergency.
  • Person_one
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    If they don't pull over or slow down when an opportunity arise then they are just as inconsiderate as someone tailgating or flashing their lights.

    No they're not. They aren't brilliant drivers, and they are causing minor inconvenience, but they aren't risking the safety of themselves and other road users/pedestrians as the tailgater is.
  • DCFC79
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    Jagraf wrote: »
    I've just been on an unlit road in the dark that I don't know well, with sharp bends. The speed limit is 50 and I was going about 40, but the car behind me was pushing and flashing lights. Obviously when anyone knows a road well it's easier. Can anyone understand what these people are trying to achieve?

    Maybe they had a partner/wife girlfriend/friend as a passenger and wanted to enhance ones ego.

    I see a lot of idiots on the roads, drivers who overtake and then take the next left soon after overtaking.

    Don't let it worry you and carry on as you were.
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