If we vote for Brexit what happens

ukcarper

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Not aware of doing that, you must be thinking of someone else?

Let's clear things up then when did you sell?

6feet

Just sold our house to our tenants in outer London at pre brexit agreed price. Have noticed reductions down our road though.

mwpt

Does anyone have any thoughts on what will happen to small businesses selling on amazon and ebay after brexit in the event we go big bang and leave the single market?

gfplux

Sapphire wrote: »

I'm much more concerned about the situation in the Eurozone (especially the banking sector in Germany, Italy and Greece, and little to do with the UK), and how that will impact our own economy.

I really wish they would get rid of Juncker and his ilk, and employ some competent, sensible, reasonable people with whom we could negotiate to try and pull together and resolve that and other situations. Just forget about attempting to create a 'united states of Europe' (which few countries in Europe will ultimately agree to) and focus on the economies of Europe, and on working together to resolve the economic crisis and end the security issues that are destabilising Europe.

You seem to be wanting a weak negotiating team on their side. No chance. Juncker has already appointed a powerful negotiater to lead the UK OUT talks. He takes up his post on October 1st. The Commision have already appointed a skilled diplomat to oversee the relationship the EU will have post Brexit.
You should hope the the UK have equally clever people to put round the table.

gfplux

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Only due to uncertainty.

There is no knowledge over whether we will retain single market membership or freedom of movement in some form.

If we did retain those then in terms of business, where's the issue? There would be little that changes for these businesses apart from their employees getting blue passports possibly?

You have hit the nail on the head Tricky. "Only due to uncertainty"
If you have been in business you know how damaging a short period of uncertainty is.
If we activate E50 next January the uncertainty will have lasted OVER 30 Months.
Let us all hope that the negotiations take much less than two years (fat chance some say) to conclude. However the uncertainty for all will continue UNTIL the ink has dried on the OUT contract.
IF AND ONLY IF
That signed contract includes full details of our post Brexit deal with the EU. If it doesn't then the uncertainty will continue.

You don't give Business people enough credit if you think these huge periods of time of uncertainty will not effect business decisions and potentially reduce profits and head counts.
Which suggests you may not have been in business or experienced any period of uncertainty in your life.

As I continue to repeat this damage by a thousand cuts will continue until all is sorted out.

Crashy_Time

http://www.reuters.com/article/britain-eu-houseprices-idUSEONG850RT

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

You seem to be wanting a weak negotiating team on their side. No chance. Juncker has already appointed a powerful negotiater to lead the UK OUT talks. He takes up his post on October 1st. The Commision have already appointed a skilled diplomat to oversee the relationship the EU will have post Brexit.
You should hope the the UK have equally clever people to put round the table.

one would hope that both sides would work in the best interests of their peoples
however we know that the EU will consider political issues over the economic issues of their own people : just like in greece, they will be willing to sacrifice the ordinary people for a political agenda.

but nothing new there you knew that already.

gadgetmind

"UK labour market enters 'freefall' after Brexit vote, REC says"

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy-jobs-idUKKCN10F2SL

TrickyTree83

gfplux wrote: »

You have hit the nail on the head Tricky. "Only due to uncertainty"
If you have been in business you know how damaging a short period of uncertainty is.
If we activate E50 next January the uncertainty will have lasted OVER 30 Months.
Let us all hope that the negotiations take much less than two years (fat chance some say) to conclude. However the uncertainty for all will continue UNTIL the ink has dried on the OUT contract.
IF AND ONLY IF
That signed contract includes full details of our post Brexit deal with the EU.

You don't give Business people enough credit if you think these huge periods of time of uncertainty will effect business decisions and potentially reduce profits and head counts.

Whoa, reading a lot into that comment.

I am aware that uncertainty is bad for business. The point I'm making (or trying to make) is that it is the uncertainty only, since we may end up with single market membership in which case for business nothing changes from how it is now/was before the vote. I guess I thought that went without saying, or am I giving readers too much credit?

mwpt

CLAPTON wrote: »

one would hope that both sides would work in the best interests of their peoples
however we know that the EU will consider political issues over the economic issues of their own people : just like in greece, they will be willing to sacrifice the ordinary people for a political agenda.

Do you mean like the Tories (who I believe you support) will sacrifice ordinary people in the pursuit of their political ideology?

It is the same the world over. The EU is not any different to many other political organisations. You just choose to swap their version of politics for another one so that you can have fewer people immigrating to this country (a remote chance).