If we vote for Brexit what happens

mwpt

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I'm not trivialising anything.

It's to do with epigenetics, brain composition, nature and nurture and environmental consequences. In the brain it's to do with amygdala size, pre-frontal cortex composition, dopamine receptors, etc.. people on the left of politics are different to those on the right of politics at a physiological level.

Imperialism won't come back, but stronger in-group preferences will come and go as the 'r' over takes the 'K' and then swings back as resource becomes more scarce. His bleeding heart eulogies are typical of this left leaning thinking "we're all equal" such a typical 'r' species character trait. Have you read about r/K selection strategy? Or perhaps the more modern life-history selection strategy (basically an upgraded version of r/K)?

On your emphasis of stronger in-group preferences. That's not a bad thing, that's what produces the sense of community which has been lost over past decades. A mentality amongst the community that no one gets left behind. Whereas 'r' would rather plough on with their own busy, hectic lives and leave it to the state to help the destitute or needy. That stronger in-group preference is what makes people on DIY SOS volunteer their time, it's what makes people volunteer to run meals on wheels for the elderly, etc...

You're just brandishing about some new found knowledge from your latest book. Stronger-in-group is a thing, we all get that. The point is that it produces a lot of bad outcomes and thankfully a lot of that is being consigned to the dustbin of history.

michaels

gadgetmind wrote: »

This is worth a read.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/the-aftermath-of-the-brexit-vote-a-verdict-from-those-of-those-experts-were-not-supposed-to-listen-to/

And this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/chuka-umunna/vote-leave-watch-uk-economy_b_11294550.html

The 'top economist' in the first piece talks about 'paying down the deficit' in paragraph two. Hardly instills much confidence in his further 'analysis'.

mayonnaise

gadgetmind wrote: »

This is worth a read.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/the-aftermath-of-the-brexit-vote-a-verdict-from-those-of-those-experts-were-not-supposed-to-listen-to/

The referendum was won on a drumbeat of anti-foreigner sentiment. It’s the same tune being played by demagogues in every corner of the globe. It’s the same tune that was played in the 1930s. It’s the same old beat that rises in volume when people are afraid. In the UK, it’s echoed by a rabidly right wing press and unchallenged by a flaccid establishment media. Mixed by a band of unscrupulous liars and political zealots, it has become a tsunami of bile that has downed and drowned a once great nation.

Hitting the nail on the head there. Bravo. :T

TrickyTree83

mwpt wrote: »

You're just brandishing about some new found knowledge from your latest book. Stronger-in-group is a thing, we all get that. The point is that it produces a lot of bad outcomes and thankfully a lot of that is being consigned to the dustbin of history.

It's underpinned in biology, the stronger in-group preference is just one facet of this theorem, I'd recommend giving it a read. With it being a fact of biology it appears we're unable to escape our political leanings and that in fact the left will enjoy its day in the limelight and then eventually fail and then the right will come to the fore and then also eventually fade away also, a cyclical existence.

Both 'r' and 'K' are however essential for civilisation to thrive, a proper balance between the two is optimum. Since 'r' is capable of things 'K' is not, and vice versa.

It will also explain that 'r' (left) will be unable to reconcile themselves with the 'K' (right ) and that they are in fact gene sets (pre-programmed) hell bent on the eradication of the others ability to thrive. So if you're left leaning, you may never agree, you may never read it, you will simply say I'm incorrect when in fact it's not even my theorem.

Carl31

gadgetmind wrote: »

This is worth a read.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/the-aftermath-of-the-brexit-vote-a-verdict-from-those-of-those-experts-were-not-supposed-to-listen-to/

And this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/chuka-umunna/vote-leave-watch-uk-economy_b_11294550.html

6 weeks and the UK is getting written off

Thats a bit like concreting over your garden because the roses you planted last week have yet to grow

mayonnaise

Carl31 wrote: »

6 weeks and the UK is getting written off

Thats a bit like concreting over your garden because the roses you planted last week have yet to grow

We had a garden full of roses before it was concreted over on June 23rd.

But you're right in a way.
It's still early days.
This is just the 'uncertainty' phase.
Lots more to come if the May government fails to immediately guarantee the continuing freedom of movement of goods, services, capital and people our industry so badly needs.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

We had a garden full of roses before it was concreted over on June 23rd.

But you're right in a way.
It's still early days.
This is just the 'uncertainty' phase.
Lots more to come if the May government fails to immediately guarantee the continuing freedom of movement of goods, services, capital and people our industry so badly needs.

a least the bit about more people being essential to keep wages down and workers in their place has some truth in it.
must keep the captains of industry in the comfort they have become accustomed to.

mwpt

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

It's underpinned in biology, the stronger in-group preference is just one facet of this theorem, I'd recommend giving it a read. With it being a fact of biology it appears we're unable to escape our political leanings and that in fact the left will enjoy its day in the limelight and then eventually fail and then the right will come to the fore and then also eventually fade away also, a cyclical existence.

Both 'r' and 'K' are however essential for civilisation to thrive, a proper balance between the two is optimum. Since 'r' is capable of things 'K' is not, and vice versa.

It will also explain that 'r' (left) will be unable to reconcile themselves with the 'K' (right ) and that they are in fact gene sets (pre-programmed) hell bent on the eradication of the others ability to thrive. So if you're left leaning, you may never agree, you may never read it, you will simply say I'm incorrect when in fact it's not even my theorem.

You make an awful lot of assumptions about my knowledge or lack of.

jimpix12

glasgowdan wrote: »

Oh I don't know, 2 mins on google shows this, sold in 2005 for £335k, now just sold for somewhere around £485k...without being renovated
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-41501889.html

This one has gained about £100k in 8 years
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-54371335.html

We both know how well you could have done with home ownership... not sure if you genuinely think you'll be able to buy a house like these for even 300k any time in future. You won't.

Just put in a phone-based offer on the first one for £750k. Agent said I'd need to go higher as the actual sale price is over £1m. CRAZY.

TrickyTree83

mwpt wrote: »

You make an awful lot of assumptions about my knowledge or lack of.

I have to assume, because I'm not you, and I don't know what you don't know.