If we vote for Brexit what happens

DollarSaver

setmefree2 wrote: »

Six Brexit deals that Theresa May must strike

Britain’s exit from the EU will be far more complicated than most British politicians realise



http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/world/theresa-may-difficult-brexit-deals-fta-wto

It says much that one commentary on there is still quoting what was essentially advertising speak / campaign slogan "Project Fear". Simple 2 word nonsense eaten up and repeated verbatim without greater research.

Wake up, we are speaking factual problems, not prospective forecasts of what might happen. It happened.

mwpt

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/david-davis-muddled-understanding-of-trade-policy/

DollarSaver

Conrad wrote: »

A survey yesterday pointed out we've had the worst wage growth in Europe aside from Greece

A major part of the vote for Brexit is to bring down immigration numbers to a level that allows normal wage conditions to return. Ok it means you may have to pay a little more for your courier, but as a good hearted person you will welcome a pay rise and return of hope and dignity for working class people of course

I believe everyone is entitled to earn a decent wage and have a bit of dignity, and if that means us all paying more, excellent

Sorry if this means you don't get to amass quite as much in your ISA and pension as you'd planned for

A lot of assumptions there, but I guess that what Brexiters evidently do best.

1) Workers rights and wages especially for those on low wages are likely to now plummet for companies to remain competitive. They now have DIRECT lobbying power to the U.K. government via donation if E.U. workers rights are eroded.

http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=82

If in the very unlikely event minimum/living wages increase by 50p/hour or so this will be gobbled up in tax hikes and costs of basic goods. A single holiday to Costa del exchange rate will gobble that years wage increase up. So living standard will likely drop even if fantasy land wage increase post Brexit was to happen.

2) I do not believe blaming others dignified, others who appear to do jobs that many U.K. nationals are not willing to do. I believe in a fair wage also but I do not believe that fair wage has been taken by immigrants. And if you are speaking of builders/plumbers/electricians/roofers (who are not low wage earners) who appear to have grossly overcharged UK householders for years on end.

£100.00 to fix a leaking tap washer or unblock a drain anyone ?

I do not have much sympathy.

Especially when some companies providing such services are more than happy to pay low wages to an E.European worker and capitalize on their labour. A case of double standards.

3) It is extremely unlikely that freedom of movement of labour will be curtailed.

wotsthat

mwpt wrote: »

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/david-davis-muddled-understanding-of-trade-policy/

I have some sympathy with him because I thought I knew a bit about trade but hadn't really grasped the complexities of the customs union at all.

I still suspect being Brexit Tsar is a hospital pass and it's no coincidence he's 67 - it's his last job - good news for him it's looking like a long term position!

glasgowdan

spunko2010 wrote: »

That's nice, but can we see the link to the £315k house you bid £362k on and lost out? It must be on the LR now.

Not on LR, too recent http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42378615.html

glasgowdan

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Of course people who "own outright" and are "happy in their own fully paid for home" just post all day long because they are beacons of truth in a world of liars......:rotfl:

You mean there are people who have experience of buying and selling with opinions on the matter? How are your 'forever renting' opinions somehow more valid?

ElsieMonkey

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Of course people who "own outright" and are "happy in their own fully paid for home" just post all day long because they are beacons of truth in a world of liars......:rotfl:

The only person who seems to be posting "all day long" is you, trying to convince yourself and others of what you're so desperately hoping for, but of which no sensible person has evidence for, or against. That's the difference between you and me, and you and most others - you have a clear agenda based on your own desires and needs. Others, me included, are sharing balanced views and opinions and not trying to sway opinion without fact and with no thought for the OP. Instead we find you yet again pushing your own agenda. I don't intend to offend you, but your take-over of many posts and attempts to steer the conversations towards your own needs, and ignoring the needs of the OP and their initial question, is starting to get very boring to say the least.

Crashy_Time

ukcarper wrote: »

Keep on kidding yourself you been calling a crash for years are prices are much higher than when you started prices could fall but I very much doubt they will fall to the level they were when you started to say prices were overpriced.

Well I started saying it in 2007, so many parts of the country not far off, but still a bubble on life support.

glasgowdan

Most of us recognise the fact that, to some: "the UK housing market is in a bubble" = "I can't afford the type of house I'd love to live in".

Crashy_Time

glasgowdan wrote: »

You mean there are people who have experience of buying and selling with opinions on the matter? How are your 'forever renting' opinions somehow more valid?

No I mean there are people who don`t want house prices to fall that feel the need to police every word that says they might, and that just got harder to do with the obvious shift in sentiment that is going on.