If we vote for Brexit what happens

Kohoutek

An end to freedom of movement doesn't work for the farmers: they are asking for an exemption to be made for them.

http://www.nfuonline.com/news/eu-referendum/eu-referendum-news/lost-labour-could-harm-farming-industry-warns-nfu/

British crops could be left unharvested without access to labour post-Brexit, the NFU said today - it says loss of labour could have a devastating impact on the horticulture industry.

Speaking at the Fruit Focus event, in East Malling, Kent, NFU horticulture board chairman Ali Capper said that the decision to leave the European Union placed huge uncertainty over whether the industry would be able to access non-UK workers. They are crucial in picking, grading and packing the crops that provide consumers with the range of quality and affordable British horticultural produce they’ve come to expect and enjoy.

As a result, Mrs Capper urged government to work closely with the NFU, and its members, to solve a potential labour problem that could result in unharvested crops and swathes of horticultural businesses closing down for good.

“Post-Brexit there is the likelihood that there will be a more restrictive immigration process in place. Effectively this could end the free movement of labour from the European Economic Area,” she said.

“We need to be prepared to explore all the possible options in maintaining access to horticulture’s vital labour supply. This could involve some form of visa-restricted access to labour. We need to investigate the specifics to ensure we have the workforce this industry needs.

“What is also clear is that we are not just talking about access to seasonal labour - some sectors and businesses are currently reliant on non-UK workers in full-time roles, year-round.”

Mrs Capper also told growers that she had written to Brexit minister David Davis, asking him to meet with members as soon as possible to discuss how horticulture – and other farming sectors – was reliant on labour.

In it, she says: “…our exit from the European Union now creates uncertainty for farmers and growers. It is not unusual for horticultural producers to be planning crops 10 years in advance, yet these crops cannot be produced without good labour supply.”

BobQ

555rdw wrote: »

Looked all over the site can't find where to start a new thread Request for help

You go to the level above this thread (Money Savers Arms) and click the button marked New Thread.

Obviously you should post it in whichever group is appropriate to the subject.

Or read the Help instructions.

BobQ

Rinoa wrote: »

I don't believe the OBR made a prediction assuming brexit. Those that did are now backtracking.

I've already mentioned I'm mainly focusing on what can be measured right now ie ftse and pound. Neither fell as forecast.

They did not. THat was their predication in March based on 2015 outcome for what would happen on current assumptions (ie in the EU) in 2016, 2017. The IMF made a similar forecast and now have reduced it because of Brexit.

With respect you werre commenting on a figure 1.3% just issued by IMF which is their forecast now for growth in 2017. As you said in 6618

The point is this is a further example of 'experts' saying one thing before Brexit, and then having to backtrack when their predictions turn out way off the mark.

I do not believe you can make a meaningful forecast based on 3 weeks of current market activity.

System

Kohoutek wrote: »

An end to freedom of movement doesn't work for the farmers: they are asking for an exemption to be made for them.

http://www.nfuonline.com/news/eu-referendum/eu-referendum-news/lost-labour-could-harm-farming-industry-warns-nfu/

I bet a massive proportion of farmers voted Leave. Honestly people need to live with their decisions.

BobQ

Joeskeppi wrote: »

I bet a massive proportion of farmers voted Leave. Honestly people need to live with their decisions.

They join the long line of people who believe they can trust politicians.

BobQ

May be of interest.........

70% of employers have received concerns from staff about job security or right to work in the UK following the vote to leave the EU

The UK’s decision to leave the EU has left many employees feeling vulnerable about their job security, a new CIPD survey has revealed.

In response to the CIPD/People Management survey, 36% of employers said staff had expressed concerns about job security, while a further 36% of organisations said that non-UK employees had expressed concern about their continuing right to work in the UK.

The survey also highlights evidence of increased workplace tension and division as a result of the vote to leave the EU, with almost one in ten (8%) of respondents saying incidents had been reported and a further 25% saying incidents had been hinted at but not reported.

http://www.cipd.co.uk/pressoffice/press-releases/brexit-pulse-survey-200716.aspx?utm_medium=email&utm_source=cipd&utm_campaign=cipdupdate&utm_term=899041&utm_content=200716-6611-13567-20160720220321-More%20findings%20from%20our%20latest%20Brexit%20survey

buglawton

BobQ wrote: »

May be of interest.........
http://www.cipd.co.uk/pressoffice/press-releases/brexit-pulse-survey-200716.aspx?utm_medium=email&utm_source=cipd&utm_campaign=cipdupdate&utm_term=899041&utm_content=200716-6611-13567-20160720220321-More%20findings%20from%20our%20latest%20Brexit%20survey

Ho hum, even pre brexit my employer's been busy exporting jobs to cheap Eastern EU locations. Frankly like every other indigenous UK person I've precisely zero confidence in my job security beyond the next 3 months. And like most, I can't be bothered to 'voice my fears to my employer'.

zagubov

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I'd be surprised if anyone wanted a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland. Everyone there will want to continue to persue peace and the structure is there to achieve it now.

There'll be no need for one. Why should there be? We already have different visa requirements for visitors and that hasn't affected the north/south border at all.

We discussed this two years ago

Sorry to quote myself from way back then but

zagubov wrote: »

... while Republic of Ireland lets in Taiwanese and Malawian and Bolivian people without the visas that the UK demands, the UK needs to have checkpoints to stop them trying to cross from Eire to the UK.

Except they don't have border checkpoints, do they?

As for the EU, why bother? The UK may have a referendum and pull us all out anyway.

buglawton

BobQ wrote: »

May be of interest.........
http://www.cipd.co.uk/pressoffice/press-releases/brexit-pulse-survey-200716.aspx?utm_medium=email&utm_source=cipd&utm_campaign=cipdupdate&utm_term=899041&utm_content=200716-6611-13567-20160720220321-More%20findings%20from%20our%20latest%20Brexit%20survey

Ho hum, even pre brexit my employer's been busy exporting jobs to cheap Eastern EU locations. Frankly like every other indigenous UK person I've precisely zero confidence in my job security beyond the next 3 months.

copperjar

Have just put my house on market (well, pictures were taken today so not actually on yet!) and have been looking at potential places to buy for a few weeks but nothing has come up yet. Getting cold feet. My house would suit first time buyers, me and my partner need more space so are looking to upsize. Is it daft in this post Brexit uncertainty? Or better to do it now than wait a couple of years when Brexit actually happens?