If we vote for Brexit what happens

wymondham

carrot_cake wrote: »

I have seen lots of posts etc regarding the petition for a second referendum. I have also seen a link for the petition to block a 2nd referendum but, strangely, it states


"We need to check it meets the petition standards before we publish it.
Please try again in a few days."


https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/136532/moderation-info


Why is that, does anyone know?

definitely not enough petitions going on, we could do with more...

dharm999

Crashy_Time wrote: »

She is a nutter. Pushing this is going to finish her political career.

No, it won't. Focussed, one track mind, maybe, but she isn't stupid. She will go for it when she knows she can win. It will depend on what Brexit looks like

carrot_cake

wymondham wrote: »

definitely not enough petitions going on, we could do with more...

I just wondered why a petition calling for a 2nd referendum is already up and running with 2 million signatures (or thereabouts) already (and it could only have been started yesterday), yet a petition trying to block a 2nd referendum has to be checked and may take a few days?

wymondham

carrot_cake wrote: »

I just wondered why a petition calling for a 2nd referendum is already up and running with 2 million signatures (or thereabouts) already (and it could only have been started yesterday), yet a petition trying to block a 2nd referendum has to be checked and may take a few days?

we could start a petition on that?

setmefree2

The EU are going to try push us out whether The Tories want to go or not.

He said that the European Council - representing the 27 other member states - could trigger the negotiating process as soon as the prime minister discusses Brexit with other EU leaders.
Paragraph two of Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty says that "a Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention".
Once this happens, the leaving state has up to two years to negotiate a withdrawal agreement.
The treaty does not say how this process of notification should happen.
It has always been assumed that this would come in the form of a letter from the prime minister to Donald Tusk, the European Council president, and the timing would be in the hands of the British government.
But Professor Wyatt, who has represented clients in hundreds of cases before the European courts, said that EU lawyers might consider any discussion about Brexit between Mr Cameron and Mr Tusk and other EU leaders as effectively notifying the European Council of the UK's intention to leave.
Weaker position

Professor Wyatt said: "If David Cameron attends the European council on Tuesday, he is likely to confirm in discussions with other heads of government that the UK intends to leave the EU.
"He might do this directly in so many words or he might conduct conversations predicated on the UK's departure from the EU, such as suggestions that informal pre-negotiations might take place before Article 50 is formally triggered.
"EU lawyers might advise the council that such confirmation or such conversations are themselves enough to trigger Article 50 and set the clock ticking on the two year period for negotiating a withdrawal agreement."
This question is crucial because the sooner Article 50 is triggered, the less time the UK will have to secure a withdrawal deal.
The closer the UK gets to the two year deadline, the weaker its negotiating position.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36631518

Plus

An EU Resolution due to be voted on Tuesday (28 June), MEPs from the Parliament’s main political groups, emphasised the need to “immediately” activate the Article 50 of the Treaty of the European Union, saying the will of British citizens should be fully respected. “Negotiations under Article 50 TEU concerning the UK’s withdrawal from the EU must begin as soon as once the formal notification has been communicated,” the MEPs said, adding that this iwould prevent damaging uncertainty for everyone and protect the Union’s integrity.
The resolution is co-signed by Manfred Weber and Elmar Brok on behalf of the European People’s Party (EPP), Gianni Pittella and Roberto Gualtieri on behalf of the Socialists and Democrats (S&D), Guy Verhofstadt for the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (ALDE) and Rebecca Harms and Philippe Lamberts on behalf of the Greens/EFA.

I like this bit in the BBC Article

"The irony of a pro-Leave Conservative government having to appeal to the very European judges whose legitimacy they question would not be lost on pro-remain campaigners."

Yolina

wymondham wrote: »

definitely not enough petitions going on, we could do with more...

Shall we have a petition to demand a referendum about petitions?

wymondham

Crashy_Time wrote: »

She is a nutter. Pushing this is going to finish her political career.

fandabbydozzie!

wymondham

Yolina wrote: »

Shall we have a petition to demand a referendum about petitions?

certainly, after you ...

Crashy_Time

dharm999 wrote: »

No, it won't. Focusessed, one track mind, maybe, but she isn't stupid. She will go for it when she knows she can win. It will depend on what Brexit looks like

If she can`t win with oil at over $100 a barrel, she can`t win.

Moby

A day later and this whole thing is a complete mess and what's more it is sapping energy and time that should be spent on other things. Where is our Government? Who on earth do the tories think they are. Why should we wait three months for them to sort out their internal leadership battle and replace one !!!!!! with another !!!!!!.:mad: Get it sorted and then lets have a General Election. Its totally disfunctional at present.

Meanwhile Sturgeon is running rings around them!
Soon we'll have a border in Ireland and in Northumberland as well. The Union will consist of England and Wales.....is that what the Brexiteers wanted......they've taken back control........ yes.....of a shrinking state!:eek:

We are a laughing stock. I am so ashamed to be British at present. We are so small time and deluded. Our future has been decided by people who have no idea what the consequences are of their vote and were really motivated by hatred of immigrants and old farts who were selfishly dreaming of a past they have totally romanticised........... denying the next generation their opportunities in the process.
Something else as well.......I will personally never accept that 52% is a valid majority ....for such a momentous decision it surely should have had a higher margin. Farage is on record that if Remain won by a narrow margin UKIP wouldn’t consider it settled by a long shot.’