If we vote for Brexit what happens

posh*spice

baza52 wrote: »

Exactly :T

What part of MAJORITY are the moaners not getting.
We had a referendum and leave won.

We are always told that change is a good thing and that we should embrace it.
We might actually become proud of our island again anyone remember those days?

Where is it written that we can't have a second referendum? This is what Boris always wanted.

baza52

BobQ wrote: »

Now 1.8m......

What makes you think that IF there was another referendum that Remain would get 60% or more?
They didn't do it first time round and wont do it a second time.
Should we just have a referendum every week until remain win lol

posh*spice

baza52 wrote: »

What makes you think that IF there was another referendum that Remain would get 60% or more?
They didn't do it first time round and wont do it a second time.
Should we just have a referendum every week until remain win lol

Because Boris's plan was always to go back to Brussels with a Leave in his pocket and get a better deal. Why else are they waiting so long to invoke Article 50? There's gonna be a second referendum.

ukcarper

BobQ wrote: »

Quite, but Boomers are not a homogeneous group. The majority of them have benefited from good pensions, hous price inflation and lots more. Being on the edge of that group I cannot disagree with young people who say this.

True the younger generation could have made a greater political impact and many could not be bothered, probably motivated by the apathy that modern politicians inspires. But it does not stop them taking the view.

I think that's not exactly true many have benefited from good pensions but I would be surprised if it's the majority also house price inflation has not only benefited boomers (if it has benefited them in a practical way).

StevieJ

baza52 wrote: »

What makes you think that IF there was another referendum that Remain would get 60% or more?
They didn't do it first time round and wont do it a second time.
Should we just have a referendum every week until remain win lol

I think if there was a vote tomorrow, remain would win. It seems that Remain have got their case over more successfully after the vote than before. They really were a useless bunch of Txxxxxx

BobQ

posh*spice wrote: »

Where is it written that we can't have a second referendum? This is what Boris always wanted.

It isn't written anywhere. But the only justification I could think of was that we had a close vote or something had changed since the first.

It was a close vote but not so close that it warrants a second vote. Less than half a million votes would have had a better case.

That said I think it was totally unfair that we extended the registration date and allowed all those UKIP supporters (the thick ones) the opportunity to get it right.:)

But a second referendum might be justified if the EU offered some material change that convinced the likes of Gove and Johnson that one should be held. Hannon already seems to have changed his mind about immigration.

michaels

posh*spice wrote: »

Because Boris's plan was always to go back to Brussels with a Leave in his pocket and get a better deal. Why else are they waiting so long to invoke Article 50? There's gonna be a second referendum.

Pretty much how UK unions negotiate on wages, first get a strike vote and then head to the negotiating table.

Personally I can't see a better deal being offered unless another country schedules a referendum and then I think deals will be offered.

dharm999

Has anyone actually estimated what it will cost to actually go through the Brexit process? There were lots of discussions with the Scottish referendum of the huge set up costs as well as the costs in actually negotiating the split, but I have seen nothing so far from anyone, Leave or Remain, as to how much it will cost to get to the point of leaving. I assume we will need hundreds of negotiators, and thousands of professional advisers. They don't exist in Government at the moment, the FT is quoting someone in the Civil Service, saying there are between 12 and 20 people with experience of trade negotiations, which would leave us short of hundreds of negotiators. With over 50 trade agreements to negotiate, how long will that take and what will it cost? Then once we know what Leave looks like, won't it, potentially, cost the private sector huge sums of money to make whatever changes are required as a result of Leave? Even something as simple as a change to a contract could cost thousands, depending on the contract complexity.

Has either side, looked at this and estimated the cost?

Thrugelmir

dharm999 wrote: »

Has anyone actually estimated what it will cost to actually go through the Brexit process? There were lots of discussions with the Scottish referendum of the huge set up costs as well as the costs in actually negotiating the split, but I have seen nothing so far from anyone, Leave or Remain, as to how much it will cost to get to the point of leaving. I assume we will need hundreds of negotiators, and thousands of professional advisers. They don't exist in Government at the moment, the FT is quoting someone in the Civil Service, saying there are between 12 and 20 people with experience of trade negotiations, which would leave us short of hundreds of negotiators. With over 50 trade agreements to negotiate, how long will that take and what will it cost? Then once we know what Leave looks like, won't it, potentially, cost the private sector huge sums of money to make whatever changes are required as a result of Leave? Even something as simple as a change to a contract could cost thousands, depending on the contract complexity.

Has either side, looked at this and estimated the cost?

The EU Commision employs around 33,000 people in Brussels. After 9 years no trade deal with China has been reached.

Let's keep matters in perspective.

StevieJ

Some useful advice.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/money/brexit-put-job-risk-facts-8276928