If we vote for Brexit what happens

mwpt

prowla wrote: »

I don't actually know what the outcome will be re. immigration, but I do know that it was not going to change one jot whilst we were in.

I've spent time in Norway and there is huge resentment from people there towards immigration; people saying they could leave their skis out, doors unlocked, etc. but now they cant, the taxi drivers having been displaced by immigrants, and so-on. We really should not look to their arrangement as a model for us.

Switzerland recently voted against a universal income and reasons voiced for this were based on the rights of immigrants to just stroll up and say "I'll have some of that, please".

Free movement is fine as an abstract concept, but the reality is that people will gravitate towards certain locations and will take from or even destroy the communities upon which they descend.

Limited immigration and integration is a good thing, but an unfettered gold-rush is not in our interests. We can all be a good Citizen of The World without destroying our own communities.

Incidentally, I wouldn't say the Leave campaigners are my Leave campaigners; I just found their case less un-believable and frankly shocking than Remain's and preferred the option of leaving to the EU's disdainful "take it or leave it that's all you're getting" attitude.

Fair post. Thank you.

Yolina

Oooops :rotfl: Farage excluded from Leave committee

csgohan4

The issue is that I suspect that there's a large of people who voted Leave for the wrong reasons.


Be it ill informed by rubbish media sources such as the The Sun, Daily Mail e.t.c or voting against David Cameron/ Conservatives and in so doing, cutting off their own noses in spite.


Simply put, Brexit transcends 'just' immigration and U.K decisions by U.K people Spiel. The signs of the economy cracking might be just a knee jerk, but I fear it may not be and another recession may be around the corner due to the uncertainty and the way investors prefer stability.


If the U.K Economy suffers, guess who suffers? It's not just the fat cat who sits in Canary wharf, but the single mother on benefits with 5 mouths to feed. Austerity will last longer and benefits, wages e.t.c will be frozen/ reduced.


The fact the U.K has been deemed Negative credit worthy is worrying and further piles on the interest on loans and puts the country in further debt.


While I cannot excuse the poor nature of the remain camp and the damp squib that was Corbyn, the fact is, it was to little too late.


I only hope that those who voted leave has not condemned our children to a life of misery and 80's style stagnation

BobQ

BobQ wrote: »

Just seem Daniel Hannon interviewed on Newsnight. He apparently supports the idea of retaining some hind of Freedom of Movement for Labour, provided it is separated from citizen rights within a Free Trade Agreement.

What on earth has this this Referendum been about then?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36628894

From the horse's mouth.

baza52

Yolina wrote: »

Oooops :rotfl: Farage excluded from Leave committee

Still does not change the result does it.
A very weak attempt to upset the winning side.

lol

BobQ

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/a-pyrrhic-victory-boris-johnson-wakes-up-to-the-costs-of-brexit?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=179092&subid=15077741&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2


A Pyrrhic victory.........indeed. The younger generation will never forgive their elders in my view.

CLAPTON

csgohan4 wrote: »

I only hope that those who voted leave has not condemned our children to a life of misery and 80's style stagnation

we were in the EU in the 80's

BobQ

csgohan4 wrote: »

I only hope that those who voted leave has not condemned our children to a life of misery and 80's style stagnation

That many be the case. My fear is that the boomer generation will suffer the consequences of their selfishness.

Ignoring the views of the 48% will have great consequences. Farage has already suggested that the 48% and not decent people.

csgohan4

CLAPTON wrote: »

we were in the EU in the 80's

True but we also were in the boom in the EU too.


Take out the EU and now it's crystal ball time. At least with the EU it was predictable to an extent and safety netted.


People may say at what cost and likely they will go on sovereignty and political cronies making decisions thousands of miles away. The access to the EU market is nothing to be ignored lightly.


Bare in mind for example the immigration problem people speak of from the EU, is actually non EU comprised

Fella

BobQ wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/a-pyrrhic-victory-boris-johnson-wakes-up-to-the-costs-of-brexit?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=179092&subid=15077741&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2


A Pyrrhic victory.........indeed. The younger generation will never forgive their elders in my view.

Perhaps. However if they don't like the decision they have only thereselves to blame for it. If more of them had bothered to get out of bed & vote the result would have been Remain.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/how-did-turnout-affect-the-eu-referendum-result/