If we vote for Brexit what happens

Thrugelmir

angrypirate wrote: »

Of course there are going to be positives - especially for those people continually travelling across Europe. However, the mobile phone operators are going to have a major source of revenue cut off with this bill. Do you honestly think they arent making some sort of adjustment in their pricing to recoup this? And who do you think will suffer the most? As the companies cant charge the people who travel across the EU any more, it'll be the lay person who doesnt.

Can you not accept that government interference always has unintended consequences?

Some news from a couple of weeks back.

The price increase affects customers on ‘legacy tariffs’


Three is increasing the monthly pricing of SIM-only contracts held by hundreds of thousands of customers from £15 to £30.

Affected customers are those on ‘legacy’ tariffs – plans no longer offered by the network. The price increase concerns customers who have reached the end of their legacy contracts, with the new plan being on a 30-day rolling contract.

A Three spokesman confirmed to Mobile News the process has been ongoing for the last 18 months.

He said: “In March 2014, we introduced new price plans giving customers more options in the size of their data and voice bundles, as well as limits and alerts to prevent bill shock. We have a lot of tariffs that we no longer sell and moving customers to one of the new plans will ensure they can enjoy the benefits of these plans.”

The operator has notified customers via postal letter, telling them the change will happen automatically. They have 30 days to choose a new deal or cancel the contract.

One way of telling customers they are not wanted.

wotsthat

Mobile tariffs can be had for less than a tenner a month.

This thread's gone a bit bendy banana.

setmefree2

TBF over the last couple of days Hilary Benn has been trying to put The Remain case - he's done OK imho.

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wotsthat wrote: »

Mobile tariffs can be had for less than a tenner a month.

This thread's gone a bit bendy banana.

A bendy banana comment then!

I have a ner zero cost per month sim card from three, although whether that will stay or not is maybe another matter. As long as I don't fail to use it in a 6 month period, the funding on it continues.

I was interested in that arrangment because I use a phone for emergency only, although I have the normal smart tabs/phone which I use at home where wifi takes care of things.

However it has not worked out well becasue the reception for 3 where I live is zero, in spite of the area being claimed as good. For that reason alone I use another mobile (lebara) under a similar arrangemnt except that the use-by-interval is 2 months so every 1 month or so I send a "keep aliove" message to the 3 mobile (and vice versa every 4 months or so). So I suppose they get some use.

Getting slightly off the banana, because this is about Europe, on the european front, I go to Spain quite a lot and have a sim - only card from a company called HITS in Spain, a local SIM Card. That gives me data download for around 3 cents/mb I think it is now or if I buy a month bundle for a couple of Gb or so, excesses over that are 1cent/mb. That comares with much higher figures for UK-basesd SIM cards where charges can be as high as 2 or 3 or even higher £ (!!!) per mb. Check it out on
https://www.hitsmobile.es/en/web/guest/home
The site is in English and you can check my guesses for the cost which I've been too lazy to do for this post - sorry about that.

antrobus

wotsthat wrote: »

...This thread's gone a bit bendy banana.

It's an example of antrobus's Second Law of Forumdynamics; there is a natural tendancy for every thread to degenerate into a disorderly state where people end up arguing about something that has nothing to do with the original subject.

CLAPTON

antrobus wrote: »

It's an example of antrobus's Second Law of Forumdynamics; there is a natural tendancy for every thread to degenerate into a disorderly state where people end up arguing about something that has nothing to do with the original subject.

bringing it back on topic then
if we left the EU we won't have to obey the EU law about roaming charges so a strong case for either staying or leaving.

gfplux

angrypirate wrote: »

Of course there are going to be positives - especially for those people continually travelling across Europe. However, the mobile phone operators are going to have a major source of revenue cut off with this bill. Do you honestly think they arent making some sort of adjustment in their pricing to recoup this? And who do you think will suffer the most? As the companies cant charge the people who travel across the EU any more, it'll be the lay person who doesnt.

Can you not accept that government interference always has unintended consequences?

I certainly agree that there are ALWAYS unintended consequences. We often don't know about them when they are happening. An example with a vote on UK membership to take place shortly things are happening because of this that we can only guess at. Also after the result there will be further unintended consequences which somewe may be aware of and others we will not.

I should also add that if you live in the UK and never set foot outside you will still benefit from reduced roaming charges for data and messaging. Subject to the type of contract of course.

gfplux

CLAPTON wrote: »

bringing it back on topic then
if we left the EU we won't have to obey the EU law about roaming charges so a strong case for either staying or leaving.

The we would refer to telecom company's operating in the UK market. If we leave we (the UK Government) would have to remember to include this regulation in our exit package. The telecoms have powerful friends and lobbyists in the Government so let's hope they don't give the Ministers amnesia.

setmefree2

The Economist explains

Why the markets fear Brexit

All this leads some economists to expect that Brexit would have substantial consequences. Citigroup thinks the cumulative effect will be to lower GDP growth by 4% over three years. Berenberg, the German bank, thinks that the hit to consumer and business confidence could even trigger a recession. Both Goldman Sachs and Marc Chandler, currency strategist at Brown Brothers Harriman, think the pound could fall to $1.15-$1.20 in the face of capital flight. This would have an impact on inflation and monetary policy. While Eurosceptics may dismiss these concerns as scaremongering, most strategists seem to think the consequences of Brexit would be negative; that probably means more volatility as the referendum date approaches, particularly if the polls continue to be close.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/02/economist-explains-11

Rinoa

setmefree2 wrote: »

Both Goldman Sachs and Marc Chandler, currency strategist at Brown Brothers Harriman, think the pound could fall to $1.15-$1.20 in the face of capital flight.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/02/economist-explains-11

Since we joined the EU it's fallen from $2.35 to $1.43.