If we vote for Brexit what happens

setmefree2

Tromking wrote: »

Generali.
Was moving yourself and your family to Australia an example of you being "pro Eu" ?

Generali wrote: »

It had nothing to do with the decision one way or the other.

Does your remaining in the UK demonstrate your feelings about the EU?

Generali - are you going to vote?

http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/77453/uk-expats-register-vote-eu-referendum

https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote

antrobus

gfplux wrote: »

Spanish man details not coming up on Google, can you provide a link.....

Daily Mail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3424729/Got-papers-order-welcome-soft-touch-Britain-doctors-blow-whistle-EU-health-tourists-bleed-NHS-dry.html

CLAPTON wrote: »

we could try free trade ...

We already have free trade with 30 other European countries. You have already expressed your dislike of one of the consequences of this free trade.

CLAPTON wrote: »

...i.e. the USA / China /India /Aus / NZ /Russia model : are all these countries forced to subsidise EU projects and pay high tariffs?

As far as tariffs are concerned, 'yes'; businesses located in those jurisdictions do indeed have to pay whatever tariffs are imposed. As far as projects are concerned, 'no'; they have their own projects to subsidise.

P.S. China and the USA have the same model as New Zealand? Who knew?:)

setmefree2

CLAPTON wrote: »

we could try free trade
i.e. the USA / China /India /Aus / NZ /Russia model : are all these countries forced to subsidise EU projects and pay high tariffs?

All you seem to be offering me/The UK is years of trade negotiations with no guarantee of anything other than lots of pain. I have no idea why you think I would vote for that?

CLAPTON

antrobus wrote: »

Daily Mail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3424729/Got-papers-order-welcome-soft-touch-Britain-doctors-blow-whistle-EU-health-tourists-bleed-NHS-dry.html



We already have free trade with 30 other European countries. You have already expressed your dislike of one of the consequences of this free trade.



As far as tariffs are concerned, 'yes'; businesses located in those jurisdictions do indeed have to pay whatever tariffs are imposed. As far as projects are concerned, 'no'; they have their own projects to subsidise.

P.S. China and the USA have the same model as New Zealand? Who knew?:)

I'm not sure what you are saying : that we in the UK have to pay the tariff the EU dictate when we trade with non EU countries?

And that if we exit, we will be an badly off trade wise as USA, China, Russia, third world developing countries and the rest of the world.

We don't have free trade with the EU , we have tariff free trade as there are loads of non tariff barriers.

CLAPTON

setmefree2 wrote: »

All you seem to be offering me/The UK is years of trade negotiations with no guarantee of anything other than lots of pain. I have no idea why you think I would vote for that?

I think it is certain you won't vote for free trade.

But the issue of what those inward investment figures means is interesting

Generali

setmefree2 wrote: »

Generali - are you going to vote?

http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/77453/uk-expats-register-vote-eu-referendum

https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote

I don't know.

I don't vote in General or council Elections as it is utterly pointless: if you put a blue rosette on a monkey it'd get in where I could vote.

With the referendum I could make a difference so perhaps I should. I do plan possibly to return to Europe and I have paid a very large amount of tax in the UK, more than the average person will pay in a lifetime. No taxation without representation and all that.

antrobus

CLAPTON wrote: »

I'm not sure what you are saying : that we in the UK have to pay the tariff the EU dictate when we trade with non EU countries?

And that if we exit, we will be an badly off trade wise as USA, China, Russia, third world developing countries and the rest of the world.

We don't have free trade with the EU , we have tariff free trade as there are loads of non tariff barriers.

No, I's saying that "We already have free trade with 30 other European countries. You have already expressed your dislike of one of the consequences of this free trade."

CLAPTON

antrobus wrote: »

No, I's saying that "We already have free trade with 30 other European countries. You have already expressed your dislike of one of the consequences of this free trade."

no, we don't have free trade within the EU countries, what we have is tariff free trade: there are loads of non tariff barriers to trade within the union.
That said, it is a lot better that tariff barriers in addition.

gfplux

leveller2911 wrote: »

There was a link posted in DT on a few threads to the story so have a look in the DT section.

Erh?

You obviously missed my point about the EHIC cards not being recognised by Spanish hospitals until you complain and insist on seeing a doctor under the EHIC system.They prefer you to stump up and pay on the credit/debit card first.

This is from the DM.
Just 2 lines with not even the sex or age of this Spaniard.

And again.... The EHIC card is a positive of being a member of the EU not a NEGATIVE.

gfplux

leveller2911 wrote: »

I'm not sure thats the case in the countries where I have friends which is Germany and Belgium where people are becoming more dispondant with the EU and its inability to address major issues such as the Euro, migrant crisis and The Ukraine, to name but 3.

My friends are all middle class voters so I don't think the working class populations in those coutries would be any more pro EU than the Dermatologist consultants I know.

Agreed, however my point was that these "friends" would not support Turkey joining.