If we vote for Brexit what happens

Conrad

European Bank has collapsed;


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-12/it-begins-one-european-bank-fails-another-one-needs-urgent-cash-injection


'It Begins: One European Bank Fails, Another One Needs An Urgent Cash Injection!'

TrickyTree83

Conrad wrote: »

Excellent short video from The Guardian today - "we didn't expect 9/10 of the people (we spoke to) in Stoke to be for Brexit"


As I've long said, the Islington mamby pamby brigade has hi-jacked Labour, and the people know it


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2016/jun/14/labour-supporters-brexit-stoke-on-trent-eu-referendum-video

That was really interesting.

Part of the problem for the Remain campaign is what that MP was saying to her constituents in the pottery factory. Leaving the EU doesn't mean we cannot sell to the EU. Why try to convince these people otherwise as if they're stupid enough not to know how the system of trade works? I'm sure they're aware that there might be a tariff, and that currency value impacts on how effective that tariff is. Why speak to them like idiots?

Remain would probably be better off leveling with people. Accepting some of the arguments Leave say (not dodging them) but rebutting by pointing out the positive alternative. Changing minds, not scaring minds.

Conrad

10 EU bombshells being kept quiet until after referendum






http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640078/It-s-not-just-plot-let-1-5-million-Turks-DANIEL-HANNAN-outlines-ten-bombshells-EU-s-keeping-secret-ve-voted.html

Generali

Conrad wrote: »

EXPERT ECONOMISTS / BODIES / REGULATORS - SUFFERING GROUP-THINK;


Just reading 'No One Would Listen', an account of the worlds largest Ponzi scheme perpetrated by Bernie Madoff, which went bust in 2008 taking peoples entire life savings with it. It was one giant and very visible fraud.


The author, Harry Markopolos with a team of 4 colleagues spent 9 years warning the various regulators and authorities about this Ponzi scheme, presenting them detailed dossiers of evidence, but on each occasion absolutely nothing was done as the weight of opinion on Wall Street was that Madoff was a good egg.


GROUP THINK EXPERTS OFTEN CANNOT SEE THE WOODS FOR THE TREES - just consider the list of regulators, stake holders and authorities below that simply could not see the massive Ponzi scheme before their eyes despite 9 years of pleading by a team of 5 outsider whistle blowers;


+ The SEC
+ The Federal Reserve
+ The Federal Insurance Deposit Corporation
+ The Office Of The Comptroller Of The Currency
+ The Office Of Thrift Supervision


+ Various investment houses, dealer rooms, stock brokers, financial advisers, many firms that invested their client funds with Bernie Madoff
+ other smaller players




So when the likes of Cephus tell me experts in the guise of the BOE, The IMF, Economists and Big Banks are the be all and end all of opinion I really ask them to step back and see the bigger picture


Think of all the child abuse cases that happen right in front of various state organs such as social services, and that time and again fail to spot the true picture - EXPERTS all in denial that cannot see the wood for the trees - GROUP-THINK

Ah yes, all the experts are wrong but you're right. The experts are idiots but luckily you're there to put them right.

Well done Conrad.

TrickyTree83

Generali wrote: »

Ah yes, all the experts are wrong but you're right. The experts are idiots but luckily you're there to put them right.

Well done Conrad.

Pretty sure that wasn't what he was saying. He was just reporting that institutions with vested interests often get it wrong. More often than not it would appear.

Generali

Conrad wrote: »

10 EU bombshells being kept quiet until after referendum






http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640078/It-s-not-just-plot-let-1-5-million-Turks-DANIEL-HANNAN-outlines-ten-bombshells-EU-s-keeping-secret-ve-voted.html

LOL

David Cameron failed to get an exemption that Turks won't get freedom of movement when they don't join the EU.

The EU WILL BAN a few HAIRDRYERS.

I love you

Generali

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Pretty sure that wasn't what he was saying. He was just reporting that institutions with vested interests often get it wrong. More often than not it would appear.

What about my work? I work for one of the largest asset managers in the southern hemisphere and our economists and asset managers think that Brexit is a stupid idea. The only vested interest they have is to make money to make bigger bonuses.

An Aussie asset manager doesn't give a flying fox about Brexit beyond his hip pocket.

StevieJ

The Sun are backing Brexit, well remain have just gained all the votes in Liverpool.
It seems pretty obvious to me that inward investment that we as a nation depend on, will evaporate with no tariff free access to EU markets.

Record inward investment performance by the UK in 2014.

English regions outside of London had their most successful year since 1998 and foreign investors indicate strong support for devolution.
UK attracted 25% more manufacturing foreign direct investment (FDI) projects than Germany, led by an increase of 79% in automotive projects.
A UK EU Referendum will lead to a slowdown of investment in the next two years

http://www.ey.com/UK/en/Newsroom/News-releases/15-05-27---UK-increases-lead-in-European-inward-investment-race-but-EU-Referendum-threatens-its-future-performance

Thrugelmir

Generali wrote: »

What about my work? I work for one of the largest asset managers in the southern hemisphere and our economists and asset managers think that Brexit is a stupid idea. The only vested interest they have is to make money to make bigger bonuses.

An Aussie asset manager doesn't give a flying fox about Brexit beyond his hip pocket.

Have some Aussie friends staying with me currently. Interesting take on a very much changing OZ. Many of their tales so similar to the UK's.

Generali

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Have some Aussie friends staying with me currently. Interesting take on a very much changing OZ. Many of their tales so similar to the UK's.

In what respect? High immigration changing neighbourhoods?