If we vote for Brexit what happens

mwpt

RJP33 wrote: »

If anyone in the leave campaign gives you a guarantee for people who haven't already gone, they're lying. It's up for negotiation.

So those people who are not rolling in money who plan to retire to the EU in a few years, are these lost votes to the leave campaign? Do you have any proposals that may have been drafted that you could show them that you'd try to agree with the rest of the EU?

Free trade and movement are two different things, most free trade zones don't have free movement. Incidentally the EU is a customs union, or effectively acts as a federal state, rather than a FTA.

I'm not sure what point you're trying tot make I'm afraid.

CLAPTON

mwpt wrote: »

What about people who aren't that well funded? They can find very cheap areas to retire to in the EU right now and live better lifestyles (for them).

So I'm asking about a situation that affects many potential voters and asking if the leave campaign have a specific plan to address this issue or if, as you and others have confirmed, there is no plan, except to leave.

the matter will be decided by the eu27 AND not by the people of the UK

RJP33

mwpt wrote: »

So those people who are not rolling in money who plan to retire to the EU in a few years, are these lost votes to the leave campaign? Do you have any proposals that may have been drafted that you could show them that you'd try to agree with the rest of the EU?

Nope. Nobody from the leave campaign can give you any real guarantee post exit.

Depends if the UK caves on free movement in post brexit negotiations to an extent, otherwise probably a split between residency permits and worker permits.

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

I'm not sure what exactly you are asking : I don't know who will be PM in July let alone what a parliament in 2020 might decide to do.

The leave campaign is long on the repatriation of powers but short on what they'd like those powers to do.

Immigration and VAT on loft insulation are big issues for you. What sort of reduction in immigration or VAT have you implied from the leave campaign? It's just that if the big deal is we can decide these matters for ourselves and, I suspect, decide to do not much at all then it's a hollow victory for your treasured young looking for family sized house in the SE and people wanting to insulate their houses.

I can see why people would like to repatriate powers on principle but I would've thought most people voting to leave would be looking for real change - just had a look on the vote leave site and it's a little light on detail.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

The leave campaign is long on the repatriation of powers but short on what they'd like those powers to do.

Immigration and VAT on loft insulation are big issues for you. What sort of reduction in immigration or VAT have you implied from the leave campaign? It's just that if the big deal is we can decide these matters for ourselves and, I suspect, decide to do not much at all then it's a hollow victory for your treasured young looking for family sized house in the SE and people wanting to insulate their houses.

I can see why people would like to repatriate powers on principle but I would've thought most people voting to leave would be looking for real change - just had a look on the vote leave site and it's a little light on detail.

I'm surprised you don't think housing is a significant factor in people's quality of life.
What do you consider a 'real change' if not things that affect peoples day to day life?

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

I'm surprised you don't think housing is a significant factor in people's quality of life.
What do you consider a 'real change' if not things that affect peoples day to day life?

I'm less surprised you've resorted to a blatant straw man.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

CLAPTON wrote: »

I'm surprised you don't think housing is a significant factor in people's quality of life.
What do you consider a 'real change' if not things that affect peoples day to day life?

So what's the concrete plan for the UK if we vote leave?

How many immigrants per year?

What will our trading terms be?

How many jobs will we gain or lose?

Which other countries have said they'd prefer us to leave the EU and are willing to enter into better trading arrangements with us if we do?

Conrad

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Which other countries have said they'd prefer us to leave the EU and are willing to enter into better trading arrangements with us if we do?

Routine democratic custom is to agree with the will of friendly Governments, again such a daft argument from the scarred stiff remainiacs.


The minute we voted independence, we would see Cameron / Boris letting it be known he'd had warm words of encouragement from other nations that looked forward to a prosperous shared future together.


C'mon man you gotta up your game here

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

I'm less surprised you've resorted to a blatant straw man.

'k, so lets say we build 1 million shiny new homes and requisite infrastructure across the SE in the nex t 5 years - what effect do you think this would have in terms of magnetic pull on people abroad?


So what happens when that 1 m homes are rapidly taken?


Again lets have a vision for AD 2100

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Conrad wrote: »

Routine democratic custom is to agree with the will of friendly Governments, again such a daft argument from the scarred stiff remainiacs.

So your answer is none then.:)

And we're supposed to just believe your fairy stories?