If we vote for Brexit what happens

cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

what's your point?

that you support immediate total free movement of people?

that all your 'cousins' are totally entitled to share your income and wealth without limit?

my point is lets do it, anyone of foreign decent going back 10 generations should be given a free weekend holiday to France all at the same time.

Before they know whats up we will flood the eurotunnel and hire a few Olympic pole vaulters to push away any boats that try to get near

with 7 of the 8.5 million londoners gone you and I can buy the now vacated homes for two ha penny. productivity will increase and wages will go up because...well we know they will

:T

cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

what's your point?

there be a lot of descendants of migrants who are very much English and will likely (hopefully) not take too kindly to the stop the migrants vote.

As I said previously a few times if this was a vote on economics then I would likely lean to an out vote. But since its 95% about migrants I will likely vote stay.

CLAPTON

cells wrote: »

my point is lets do it, anyone of foreign decent going back 10 generations should be given a free weekend holiday to France all at the same time.

Before they know whats up we will flood the eurotunnel and hire a few Olympic pole vaulters to push away any boats that try to get near

with 7 of the 8.5 million londoners gone you and I can buy the now vacated homes for two ha penny. productivity will increase and wages will go up because...well we know they will

:T

my questions were

- do you favour immediate unlimited migration?

-are you prepared to share your income and wealth with all your 'cousins'?

cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

my questions were

- do you favour immediate unlimited migration?

-are you prepared to share your income and wealth with all your 'cousins'?

No I do not favour immediate unlimited migration.
But I do think 1% a year population growth for the UK is a good thing be it babies or migrants.

I would prefer it if I could keep more of my income and wealth for myself. I feel that is more likely to happen with a growing population than not.

CLAPTON

cells wrote: »

No I do not favour immediate unlimited migration.
But I do think 1% a year population growth for the UK is a good thing be it babies or migrants.

I would prefer it if I could keep more of my income and wealth for myself. I feel that is more likely to happen with a growing population than not.

so stop the rubbish about descents and your nonsense 'cousins' argument and stick to the truth : basically you see it as in your own personal self interest for the UK to grow : no moral nonsense just normal greed.

I see it as in my own self interest and of the majority of the people of the UK, to restrict the population of the UK for the many reasons I have already outlined.

cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

so stop the rubbish about descents and your nonsense 'cousins' argument and stick to the truth : basically you see it as in your own personal self interest for the UK to grow : no moral nonsense just normal greed.

I see it as in my own self interest and of the majority of the people of the UK, to restrict the population of the UK for the many reasons I have already outlined.

What a silly post just because something is in my interest it somehow means its not in the national interest?

I think for the majority (as a guess for >85% of the people) its better that the UK population grows by 1% a year rather than not.

We may even need to import more migrants in the future. When I look at the 25-35 demographics almost all of them seem unmarried and uninterested in having children. We may find that the native English like a lot of europeans are also only having ~1 kid/woman which im sure even you would find alarming if it continues

With regards to plenty of English folk being the children of immigrants or having half immigrant kids themselves dont you think thats important in a vote for or against immigrants? would Mr UKIP half German children vote out?


also of course it goes without saying that its in the interests of the migrants else they wouldnt come. So its helping them out too.

and as Ive said before, long term I think there will be unlimited free movement.


PS: Can you list your negatives of a 1% a year rising population again. I think most of them will not be clear cut negatives.

cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

so stop the rubbish about descents and your nonsense 'cousins' argument and stick to the truth : basically you see it as in your own personal self interest for the UK to grow : no moral nonsense just normal greed.

I see it as in my own self interest and of the majority of the people of the UK, to restrict the population of the UK for the many reasons I have already outlined.

What I think I think is in the interest of the majority, and I accept what you think is likely what you think is in the interest of the majority. Clearly we disagree. You have yet to convince me and clearly I have yet to convince you.

Im not sure there is a way to move forward from that point. We fundamentally disagree on the principle that +1% population growth is good.

The only slight advantage to my side is that if i am wrong we end up helping millions of people if you are wrong we end up hurting millions of people. So if a person was exactly 50/50 and could see pros and cons in a +1% population I would suggest they vote for the +1% population

mwpt

cells wrote: »

The only slight advantage to my side is that if i am wrong we end up helping millions of people if you are wrong we end up hurting millions of people.

Do you think immigration into the UK is good for both the UK and the country from which the immigrants came?

cells

mwpt wrote: »

Do you think immigration into the UK is good for both the UK and the country from which the immigrants came?

Yes I think on average its likely positive for both nations

CLAPTON

cells wrote: »

What I think I think is in the interest of the majority, and I accept what you think is likely what you think is in the interest of the majority. Clearly we disagree. You have yet to convince me and clearly I have yet to convince you.

Im not sure there is a way to move forward from that point. We fundamentally disagree on the principle that +1% population growth is good.

The only slight advantage to my side is that if i am wrong we end up helping millions of people if you are wrong we end up hurting millions of people. So if a person was exactly 50/50 and could see pros and cons in a +1% population I would suggest they vote for the +1% population

no, if you are wrong you hurt the me, my family and the people of the UK

by importing lots of people presumably you would agree that you do harm to their country of origin, on the basis that a reduction of population is harmful.