If we vote for Brexit what happens

wotsthat

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life wrote: »

So you see, you're trying so hard ............ but it's not washing, desperate King Canute references or no.
Again, no one I have seen has said things haven't gone up but that it isn't as noticeable as you and the media are making it out to be.
People spend more on a single Starbucks/Costa/Pret etc. than their weekly shopping is going up by.

Did you see Jock say his grocery bill hadn't increased?

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

And the point is these prices were up and down forever. Recall Milibands cost of living crisis and berating of energy prices, recall petrol rises when big queues hit the pumps to get in before the rise.

Remainers get into hysterics about things they thought were just part of life pre the referendum

It's just a bit annoying we voted for higher prices.

spikyone

wotsthat wrote: »

If he was shopping judiciously before and still is then his food bill will be £2 higher.

If he wasn't shopping judiciously and now is then maybe he's found £2 savings to keep his bill the same. i.e. he's changed behaviour.

There isn't a King Canute option.

In his original post he said "not enough to be noticeable". I think that's the important point. Nobody buys exactly the same things week to week, so it's difficult to compare directly. Some of the things you buy will sometimes be on special offer, so even checking your receipts won't necessarily tell the whole story. And fruit and vegetable prices are seasonal. The best you can do is go on gut feel - if your average weekly shop goes up by £2 over the course of the year, that's well within your week-to-week variation so you won't notice it. Until it hits more like £10/week, most people aren't going to notice anything, and even if it goes up by £10/week on an annual basis, that's not even 20p difference from one week to the next.

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

It's just a bit annoying we voted for higher prices.

Again you imply nothing bad or negative ever results from EU membership.

wotsthat

spikyone wrote: »

In his original post he said "not enough to be noticeable". I think that's the important point. Nobody buys exactly the same things week to week, so it's difficult to compare directly. Some of the things you buy will sometimes be on special offer, so even checking your receipts won't necessarily tell the whole story. And fruit and vegetable prices are seasonal. The best you can do is go on gut feel - if your average weekly shop goes up by £2 over the course of the year, that's well within your week-to-week variation so you won't notice it. Until it hits more like £10/week, most people aren't going to notice anything, and even if it goes up by £10/week on an annual basis, that's not even 20p difference from one week to the next.

Not noticing something isn't the same as it not happening. It's also at odds with being certain his grocery bill hadn't increased.

I keep meticulous spending records and know I couldn't, within any degree of certainty, tell you my grocery inflation rate given the diversity of the basket contents so I'm interested to know how Jock can.

Unless it's wine. That's up and no mistake.

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

Again you imply nothing bad or negative ever results from EU membership.

I thought, on balance, we were better off in the EU so higher inflation (albeit nothing to get too excited about for us wealthy lot) means I'm paying more as a result of doing something which I think is stupid.

ThinkingOutLoud_2

wotsthat wrote: »

Not noticing something isn't the same as it not happening
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Unless it's wine. That's up and no mistake.

But also assuming that any increase is down to one thing is not correct. Wine is on its own trajectory for different reasons and for everyone in the EU...along with Euro exchange rates.

Frost - http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/business/business-news/price-wine-could-rise-20-13111229

Drink British wine ...

strawberries1

If you're invited to ask a question on BBC Question Time Election special this Friday, what question will you put to the panel?
My thoughts are around national security and what a successful Brexit means.

wotsthat

ThinkingOutLoud wrote: »

But also assuming that any increase is down to one thing is not correct. Wine is on its own trajectory for different reasons and for everyone in the EU...along with Euro exchange rates.

Frost - http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/business/business-news/price-wine-could-rise-20-13111229

Drink British wine ...

Your article suggests it might increase another 20% from here.

However, the increase in the price of wine to date is predominantly down to exchange rates.

I've reduced my wine consumption mainly for cost reasons. Switching to even more expensive English wine isn't going to help.

Yah_Boo_Sux

wotsthat wrote: »

Your article suggests it might increase another 20% from here.

However, the increase in the price of wine to date is predominantly down to exchange rates.

I've reduced my wine consumption mainly for cost reasons. Switching to even more expensive English wine isn't going to help.

Nothing at all to do with the rise in duty as well then? :whistle: