If we vote for Brexit what happens

wotsthat

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Very right. I voted remain but, after the reaction the the eu, I am very glad we are leaving. I seem to recall one of the officials even saying that democracy should not be allowed.

The EU will act in the best interests of the EU and the UK will act in the best interests of the UK. There's tons of common ground and little need to take throwaway comments too seriously. We do have an adversarial political system after all. Plus he/ she has a point.

We've had a GE, a Scottish Independence referendum, an EU referendum, a new PM and we're about to have another GE. In the space of 2 years!

Sometimes there can be too much democracy and it gets in the way of getting on with things.

kabayiri

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Mass migration of people creates problems on many levels. No other country within the EU has had to cope with with the number of people moving under FoM as the UK has. The real world cannot react to the immediate requirements that such change brings. We had in instance the other day where 3 Bulgarian families were found to be renting a 3 bed semi. 23 people in total. That's more like the living conditions in the East End of London a 100 years ago. Rather than in the UK in the 21st.

Nobody has countered your point, and I could name other examples of truly slum like conditions.

Either people genuinely don't care, or they feel that this is an acceptable price to pay for a precious EU principle.

gfplux

This is an interesting read from Bloomberg. To qualify it is only the opinion of Bloomberg.
However if you can allow yourself to read it you will find that Brexit not only means Brexit but Complcated Brexit.

Just one example

"Take broadcasting. More than 600 channels based in the U.K. including Disney, Sony, NBC and the Discovery Channel all need just one license to broadcast across the EU in multiple languages.
“If they want to keep exporting channels, they’ll have to move someplace in the EU where those channels can be licensed. It would certainly be a reason to move not insubstantial operations to the continent, or to Ireland,” said Alice Enders, director of research at Enders Analysis. There’s no precedent of a free-trade agreement with audiovisual services, and “that’s why people are worried,” she said."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-03/brexit-means-u-k-lawyers-and-bankers-may-not-be-at-your-service

Rinoa

gfplux wrote: »

Mr Macron told Le Journal du Dimanche, a Sunday newspaper in France: “my handshake with him, it wasn't innocent.”
The new French leader added: “One must show that you won't make small concessions, even symbolic ones, but also not over-publicise things, either.”

Looks like he just did.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

As you can see others feel the same way about Britain as those posters feel about the EU.

Which countries aren't contributing the agreed 2% of GDP to NATO? Seems as if the US has a right to be annoyed.

Here's a breakdown of each country's contribution, based on 2016 figures provided by NATO:

United States, 3.61%.

Greece, 2.38%.

Britain, 2.21%.

Estonia, 2.16%.

Poland, 2%.

France, 1.78%.

Turkey, 1.56%.

Norway, 1.54%.

Lithuania, 1.49%.

Romania, 1.48%.

Latvia, 1.45%.

Portugal, 1.38%.

Bulgaria, 1.35%.

Croatia, 1.23%.

Albania, 1.21%.

Germany, 1.19%.

Denmark, 1.17%.

Netherlands, 1.17%.

Slovakia, 1.16%.

Italy, 1.11%.

Czech Republic, 1.04%.

Hungary, 1.01%.

Canada, 0.99%.

Slovenia, 0.94%.

Spain, 0.91%.

Belgium, 0.85%.

Luxembourg, 0.44%.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

This is an interesting read from Bloomberg. To qualify it is only the opinion of Bloomberg.
However if you can allow yourself to read it you will find that Brexit not only means Brexit but Complcated Brexit.

Just one example

"Take broadcasting. More than 600 channels based in the U.K. including Disney, Sony, NBC and the Discovery Channel all need just one license to broadcast across the EU in multiple languages.
“If they want to keep exporting channels, they’ll have to move someplace in the EU where those channels can be licensed. It would certainly be a reason to move not insubstantial operations to the continent, or to Ireland,” said Alice Enders, director of research at Enders Analysis. There’s no precedent of a free-trade agreement with audiovisual services, and “that’s why people are worried,” she said."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-03/brexit-means-u-k-lawyers-and-bankers-may-not-be-at-your-service

At least the article was balanced. More that can be said of your selective edit.

Moreover, many European countries apply more liberal regimes than the WTO demands, and services companies are continuing to invest in the U.K. Last year, for example, Facebook Inc. said it planned to increase its U.K. headcount by 50 percent.

Yah_Boo_Sux

gfplux wrote: »

This is an interesting read from Bloomberg. To qualify it is only the opinion of Bloomberg.
However if you can allow yourself to read it you will find that Brexit not only means Brexit but Complcated Brexit.

Just one example

"Take broadcasting. More than 600 channels based in the U.K. including Disney, Sony, NBC and the Discovery Channel all need just one license to broadcast across the EU in multiple languages.
“If they want to keep exporting channels, they’ll have to move someplace in the EU where those channels can be licensed. It would certainly be a reason to move not insubstantial operations to the continent, or to Ireland,” said Alice Enders, director of research at Enders Analysis. There’s no precedent of a free-trade agreement with audiovisual services, and “that’s why people are worried,” she said."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-03/brexit-means-u-k-lawyers-and-bankers-may-not-be-at-your-service

Oh.
Is that why the EU approved the Fox/Sky deal?
£11.7 billion Fox have bid for 61% of Sky so someone isn't worried. Oh, except you and some hack trying to sell a no-news story.
Now, should we believe the £11.7 billion or a faceless forum agitator?

Yah_Boo_Sux

gfplux wrote: »

Well given the last few posts attacking me (is it the hot weather that's making you angry?) you will probably enjoy that I am posting the following. It will be interesting to see what the UK papers make of it.

This from a speech TODAY by Chancelor Merkel.

"(AFP) - Europe "must take its fate into its own hands" faced with a western alliance divided by Brexit and Donald Trump's presidency, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Sunday.
"The times in which we could completely depend on others are on the way out. I've experienced that in the last few days," Merkel told a crowd at an election rally in Munich, southern Germany.
"We Europeans truly have to take our fate into our own hands," she added.
While Germany and Europe would strive to remain on good terms with America and Britain, "we have to fight for our own destiny", Merkel went on."
https://www.wort.lu/en/international/germany-merkel-warns-us-britain-no-longer-reliable-partners-592aea41a5e74263e13c0a03

As you can see others feel the same way about Britain as those posters feel about the EU.
The negotiations at least will be very interesting when they start w/c 19th June. Put it in your diary.

It must be a person with an extremely unfulfilling life that looks forward to the beginning of EU Brexit negotiations.
We have already seen the EU display beligerence and attempted coercion. So we pretty much know that there's gonna be months of this before it dawns on the EU that they have to get serious and pull fingers out or we will walk.

Merkel's on the campaign trail. What did you expect from her as she attempts another term? A statement saying she is on the side of UK regarding Brexit?


Who's angry btw? Judging by the vehemently pro-EU propaganda you attempt the angry one appears to be you.
Chill a little.
Un bierre blanc pour gfplux, s'il te plait.

gfplux

Thrugelmir wrote: »

At least the article was balanced. More that can be said of your selective edit.

Of course it was a balanced article.
My "selective edit" did the job, you read the article.
Brexit is not all one way, but too many people have no understanding of how complex the negotiations will be. This is not a "back of a fag packet" deal. They will have to negotiate on each item on an agenda and the finished document will have to be water tight so it can not be challenged (by either side) in the courts at a later stage.

gfplux

Yah_Boo_Sux wrote: »

It must be a person with an extremely unfulfilling life that looks forward to the beginning of EU Brexit negotiations.
We have already seen the EU display beligerence and attempted coercion. So we pretty much know that there's gonna be months of this before it dawns on the EU that they have to get serious and pull fingers out or we will walk.

Merkel's on the campaign trail. What did you expect from her as she attempts another term? A statement saying she is on the side of UK regarding Brexit?


Who's angry btw? Judging by the vehemently pro-EU propaganda you attempt the angry one appears to be you.
Chill a little.
Un bierre blanc pour gfplux, s'il te plait.

Surely everyone of the people who voted for Brexit are looking forward to the negotiations.
Having been made to wait almost 12 months they must be champing at the bit to get it started.

Negotiations that will settle Britains future path for the next few decades should be of huge interest to all British citizens.