If we vote for Brexit what happens

Spidernick

I thought Newsthump was on the money again today:

http://newsthump.com/2017/05/08/35-for-le-pen-means-france-is-divided-insists-man-who-told-the-48-to-suck-it-up-and-get-over-it/

France is a country completely divided, according to a man who has spent the last year telling anyone who voted to Remain that they lost and should get over it.

gfplux

antrobus wrote: »

Curious how the headline reads "Merkel's conservatives thump rivals" and the text talks about the CDU's "decisive victory", when they are projected to get 33% of the vote. Politics must be different in Germany.:)

I believe that they are talking about the exit poll which shows that the SPD led coalition will be no more. Alternative for Germany may get some seats, FDP advanced.

http://www.dw.com/en/exit-polls-show-victory-for-christian-democrats-in-schleswig-holstein/a-38744028

Here is another headline from the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/07/world/europe/german-state-vote-schleswig-holstein-merkel.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

BERLIN — Voters in Germany’s northernmost state, Schleswig-Holstein, handed Chancellor Angela Merkel’s party an unexpected victory in a state election on Sunday, suggesting that Germans were willing to back the center-right in a year when the chancellor is seeking a fourth term.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Spidernick wrote: »

I thought Newsthump was on the money again today:

http://newsthump.com/2017/05/08/35-for-le-pen-means-france-is-divided-insists-man-who-told-the-48-to-suck-it-up-and-get-over-it/

France is indeed widely divided, more-so even than the UK perhaps.
Interesting times ahead.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-france-election-morning-reactions-idUKKBN1841G7

Sapphire

setmefree2 wrote: »

French youth unemployment 25%.

There's a good reason why millions of young continentals (along with a variety of riffraff and others who we certainly don't need) have come to Britain – it's certainly not due to love of our country, but because they cannot find work in their own countries and Britain currently provides various freebies they cannot get in their own countries.

Britain is already massively overcrowded, especially in London, and there's a limit to how many more people can be accommodated without our infrastructure breaking down, and without ever-more British people (especially young people) being disadvantaged. Building skyscrapers all over the place (thereby trashing our city) will not solve the problem, especially given that much that is being built is not intended for housing, but for investment by foreigners, hedge-funds, the global elites and the like.

setmefree2

cogito wrote: »

No they haven't. They've voted against the bogey man (or woman).

A third of French voters voted for a party that wants to both leave the EU and change their currency - I find that astonishing. And FN have momentum - everything to play for in 2022. You have to accept that Frexit is now a real possibility.

setmefree2

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

France is indeed widely divided, more-so even than the UK perhaps.
Interesting times ahead.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-france-election-morning-reactions-idUKKBN1841G7

Hard to get excited about an ex-investment banker surely.....

Arklight

setmefree2 wrote: »

French youth unemployment 25%.

British youth unemployment was in the low 20s until the Raising of School Leaving Age in 2015.


It then fell precipitously because it stopped recording kids with no job as unemployed. You could use that as an argument for Brexit though perhaps.

wotsthat

mrginge wrote: »

As someone very knowledgeable once told us about half a page back...

Yes, I'm right on both points aren't I.

cogito

CKhalvashi wrote: »

That was the impression I was under, but according to someone here I'm wrong, even though I'll get no explanation as to why.



Although how does that translate into reality?

It's a similar situation (officially) in Spain, however many youth are working.

Meanwhile Russia has officially low unemployment but many, especially outside Moscow (but everything always was different outside Moscow) are severely struggling. The average wage is down 30% and the currency is worth half of what it was, leaving many to earn around 30% of what they were a few years ago in real terms.

Inflation in the UK is starting to creep up too, which will leave those who were already struggling in a not so nice situation. My weekly shop (a mix of Waitrose and Aldi, with a few Morrisons bits a friend who goes weekly to Witham gets) is probably 10% higher than this time last year, and depending on what happens to the pound, it could see the food spend go higher still.

I was speaking to a friend about property prices in the weekend (in the context of other things), and a property they refused to buy for £61000 in around 2003 is back on the market for £205000 now. How long these prices can stay this high I don't know, however when interest rates start to rise, Conrad (who makes his money from property transactions) may start to get extremely worried as the effects of such things (some of which will be related to Brexit, some won't, however there may be a reduction in demand at the same time as people can borrow less) start to hit him in the pocket

Hi again, CK. Still looking for a link to prove that May threatened war with Spain?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Arklight wrote: »

British youth unemployment was in the low 20s until the Raising of School Leaving Age in 2015.


It then fell precipitously because it stopped recording kids with no job as unemployed. You could use that as an argument for Brexit though perhaps.

This: https://www.statista.com/statistics/266228/youth-unemployment-rate-in-eu-countries/ shows EU youth unemployment and what is classified as such.
(Under-25's )

As for age, in the UK above 18 and not employed would count.
In France at 16 if not employed AND not working.
CBA to look how many UK over-18's are in education but in France it is over 50%.
Now since 50% are in education at 18+ does it not follow that more are likely to be in education 16 - 18?
This shows to some degree.
https://www.oecd.org/education/skills-beyond-school/EAG2016-France-Eng.pdf

It cannot then be taken even from these figures that the reason for the UK's low figure is purely due to mandatory education up until the age of 18.