If we vote for Brexit what happens

Arklight

Brexiteers are utterly deluded about how the rest of the EU views the UK. They are sick of our demands, our belligerence, our leaders' antagonistic international statements designed to fawn domestically to our hate filled right wing press.


Little England is in line for a spanking and Macron and Merkel are waving their paddles.

cogito

Arklight wrote: »

Brexiteers are utterly deluded about how the rest of the EU views the UK. They are sick of our demands, our belligerence, our leaders' antagonistic international statements designed to fawn domestically to our hate filled right wing press.


Little England is in line for a spanking and Macron and Merkel are waving their paddles.

And you say Brexiteers are deluded.

cogito

wotsthat wrote: »

The French have just voted for more Europe. It's the will of the people. Who cares if a few moaners don't like it?

No they haven't. They've voted against the bogey man (or woman).

Ballard

cogito wrote: »

No they haven't. They've voted against the bogey man (or woman).

Blimey. It must have taken you ages to speak to them all to get their opinion.

wotsthat

cogito wrote: »

No they haven't. They've voted against the bogey man (or woman).

That's not how Macron or the EU are spinning it.

May certainly won't be spinning her election win as a vote against Corbyn either - it'll be seen as a glorious endorsement of her approach to Brexit.

..and Corbyn is much more scary. He's got his own thread on here where people scare themselves to death about Pol Pot, Hamas and the IRA.

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

Who's arguing we 'cut ourselves off from the biggest export market in the world'?

Aren't you an advocate of going to WTO terms? Do you honestly think that'll result in unhampered free trade with the EU?

setmefree2

Conrad wrote: »

Nearly half of young French voters back Marine Le Pen, projections suggest

French youth unemployment 25%.

setmefree2

UK house prices in first quarterly fall since 2012

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39842715

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

That's not how Macron or the EU are spinning it.

May certainly won't be spinning her election win as a vote against Corbyn either - it'll be seen as a glorious endorsement of her approach to Brexit.

..and Corbyn is much more scary. He's got his own thread on here where people scare themselves to death about Pol Pot, Hamas and the IRA.

As someone very knowledgeable once told us about half a page back...

wotsthat wrote: »

Why worry about what 'real' people say when it's more enlightening to see what they do.

CKhalvashi

Herzlos wrote: »

Aren't you an advocate of going to WTO terms? Do you honestly think that'll result in unhampered free trade with the EU?

That was the impression I was under, but according to someone here I'm wrong, even though I'll get no explanation as to why.

setmefree2 wrote: »

French youth unemployment 25%.

Although how does that translate into reality?

It's a similar situation (officially) in Spain, however many youth are working.

Meanwhile Russia has officially low unemployment but many, especially outside Moscow (but everything always was different outside Moscow) are severely struggling. The average wage is down 30% and the currency is worth half of what it was, leaving many to earn around 30% of what they were a few years ago in real terms.

Inflation in the UK is starting to creep up too, which will leave those who were already struggling in a not so nice situation. My weekly shop (a mix of Waitrose and Aldi, with a few Morrisons bits a friend who goes weekly to Witham gets) is probably 10% higher than this time last year, and depending on what happens to the pound, it could see the food spend go higher still.

I was speaking to a friend about property prices in the weekend (in the context of other things), and a property they refused to buy for £61000 in around 2003 is back on the market for £205000 now. How long these prices can stay this high I don't know, however when interest rates start to rise, Conrad (who makes his money from property transactions) may start to get extremely worried as the effects of such things (some of which will be related to Brexit, some won't, however there may be a reduction in demand at the same time as people can borrow less) start to hit him in the pocket