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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Other countries produce "food". Nothing to stop UK production increasing either.

    Let's take an example. we could reduce energy taxes on the market gardening sector such that we could produce greenhouse and Hydrphonic farmed crops such as lettuce and tomatoes more cheaply, thus not need Spannish imports.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Ballard wrote: »
    Putting aside the contentious issue of whether Brexit will bring a reduction in GDP, I have to question why someone wouldn't be bothered living in a poorer country. Things like the NHS, roads & schools are all paid for through taxation. Less money in the country means less money to spend. Each to their own, I suppose.

    He said 'a dip' by which I expect he means a temporary and slight fall in money, although personally I expect to see more Remainer head scratching as the UK prospers and thrives given all the benefits of Brexit.

    In any event, you imply we never had down turns as EU members, and that we would have none if we only remained in.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Remainers accross the media saying we should not be playing our defence ace in the negotiation, as ever batting for the EU, not the UK

    I said a year ago we would deploy this ace and Remainers told it was not an ace. As said back the, our membership of the Five Eyes System and us guarding Europes oil supplies through the Straights Of Hormuz are just to power plays for us.
  • davomcdave
    davomcdave Posts: 607 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    Let's take an example. we could reduce energy taxes on the market gardening sector such that we could produce greenhouse and Hydrphonic farmed crops such as lettuce and tomatoes more cheaply, thus not need Spannish imports.

    Haha, yes. Tomatoes grown in 6 hours of sunlight. :T

    I suppose you could use grow lights. How much does marijuana cost in the UK these days? That should give you an approximate guide as to how much it costs to produce plants under UV lamps.

    Where the banks are at:

    https://www.ft.com/content/a2af5c60-de16-11e6-9d7c-be108f1c1dce?segmentId=2aafa5ed-4433-1a66-e77b-0e29d50ab3da&segment_detail=Story5APACbankerstwostage
    Senior US bankers are privately drawing up contingency plans for Brexit that would give them more time to decide how many jobs to move out of London, in contrast with the industry’s public rhetoric about mass relocation.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    edited 2 April 2017 at 10:39AM
    davomcdave wrote: »
    Haha, yes. Tomatoes grown in 6 hours of sunlight. :T

    I suppose you could use grow lights. How much does marijuana cost in the UK these days? That should give you an approximate guide as to how much it costs to produce plants under UV lamps.

    Where the banks are at:

    https://www.ft.com/content/a2af5c60-de16-11e6-9d7c-be108f1c1dce?segmentId=2aafa5ed-4433-1a66-e77b-0e29d50ab3da&segment_detail=Story5APACbankerstwostage


    Holland shares our climate and has a thriving greenhouse growing industry. You clearly do not watch Countryfile which shows huge new underground farms powered by LED lights accross Britain.


    We could remove all or much of the energy tax for certain sectors should the need arise, and Spain knows this.

    You still believe us to hold no power at the deal making table, that's what makes you a confirmed Remainer.


    Did you miss all the posts where we said Banks might open small offices inside the EU to get around any access issues?
    As ever you still discount the job creation by way of new a Brexit opportunities. Keep on filtering.
  • prosaver
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    Underground farm? like a secret factory they have in james bond films, sure it wasnt a april fool?
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    edited 2 April 2017 at 10:49AM
    Regarding the growth of salad veg. We could build another Thanet Earth. It already produces c8-12% of the nation's tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers.

    The city of London though, granted, is a thornier issue.

    ETA... looks like Ballard and I cross-posted.
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  • Ballard
    Ballard Posts: 2,986 Forumite
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    I am in the weird situation of partially agreeing with Conrad as Thanet Earth produce some of the best tomatoes around. In my opinion they're certainly better than those grown on the continent.

    http://www.thanetearth.com/

    I would recommend giving them a go if you see them in your supermarket.

    I think that I might make a note in my diary. 2nd April 2017 - Agreed with Conrad about something.
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
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    Devon down that way could grow all year round with greenhouses and have a break in jan, feb

    Im not bothered taking a break from salads
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
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  • Ballard wrote: »
    We have opposing views on the EU. I happen to think that things like free trade and cooperation have meant that the expense of the EU has been worth it but we won't agree on this.
    Opposing views of the EU indeed.
    Because this "free trade and cooperation" are not and never have been free as you at least acknowledge with your "expense .... ".
    They have cost us dearly, to the tune of many billions of pounds each and every year.
    There is certainly nothing "free" about that.

    In fact it is my belief (and that of others much better-placed than I and with more direct experience) that the EU have actually restricted trade with the rest of the world in favour of their own brand of nepotism, usually at the expense of other nations.
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