If we vote for Brexit what happens

mayonnaise

BMW Mulls Moving Iconically British Mini Amid Brexit Talks



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/bmw-reviewing-u-k-plant-options-post-brexit-amid-trade-threats

Oops.

kabayiri

mayonnaise wrote: »

BMW Mulls Moving Iconically British Mini Amid Brexit Talks



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-21/bmw-reviewing-u-k-plant-options-post-brexit-amid-trade-threats

Oops.

BMW bought the brand.

That's it really. The current motor shares no ancestry with the original apart from the brand.

A future BMW could easily choose to relocate production to China for completely different reasons.

That is globalization isn't it? I thought it was to be universally celebrated ...

Thrugelmir

kabayiri wrote: »

BMW bought the brand.

That's it really. The current motor shares no ancestry with the original apart from the brand.

Also bought a highly skilled workforce with heritage.

Bigger issue is the funding of the pension scheme. With workers balloting for strike action.

Sapphire

kabayiri wrote: »

Hull is alright I reckon.

There's a lot of history in both Hull and Liverpool. It's a great place if you like fountains

I don't understand why we have to talk down places in the UK.

Frankly, at the moment especially, I have no particular desire to go to continental Europe.

I favour Britain. I absolutely love the British countryside, and all the various landscapes, beautiful villages and towns, and heritage we have. I'm not bothered by the possibility of wet weather, since my idea of a great holiday is not sitting endlessly on a beach under a blazing hot sun drinking Pina Coladas while seeing practically nothing of a country (though a drink or two and good food are always welcome).

Britain is an amazing country, and I'm not surprised that people who were away from it (at war, for example) yearned for it and wrote so poetically about it. I'm going to Herefordshire for Easter, in fact – a lovely place. I also want to go to Australia again at some point (perhaps to Queensland and the Northern Territory this time), and would love to see New Zealand (again, spectacular scenery). One of these days I'd like to go all over America to see some of the different states, but not sure whether I will do that. The bonus with all those countries is also that I feel at home with their citizens (I worked for an American company for ten years, and with Ozzies and Kiwis throughout my career, and find them really easy to get on with).

Conrad

Remainers assert we are a laughing stock and considered small minded and xenophobic on the continent. They tell us Europeans will no longer wish to come work here.


Back in the real world, Germany is considering something that would never occur in liberal Britain;


http://newtelegraphonline.com/news/two-german-born-terror-suspects-deported-nigeria-algeria/


German-born terror suspects to be deported to Nigeria, Algeria


Germany says it will deport two men born in the country but whose parents are foreign – the first such case in German history.

The men, a 27-year-old Algerian and a 22-year-old Nigerian, were arrested last month on suspicion of planning a terror attack.

A gun and an flag of the so-called Islamic State were found at their homes during police raids in the central city of Gottingen.

But the men have never been charged.

The criminal proceedings were dropped because police never established whether the suspects had planned to carry out an attack. Police say the two men are “dangerous”.

setmefree2

always_sunny wrote: »

It is pretty factual that beside London, the rest of the UK does not attract much tourism.

Is it pretty factual?

Feb 2016
Tourism outside London at highest level since financial crisis

According to VisitBritain, the national tourist agency, trips to cities outside the capital rose by 4.71 per cent in the first nine months of 2015 compared with the same period the year before. Between January and September last year, some 14.87m visited Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and English cities outside London, compared with a previous high of 14.52m in 2008.

London, however, remains “the country’s crown jewel” says agency director Patricia Yates, at least until public transport is made cheaper and more accessible. “We still have a way to go,” she said. “The challenge is trying to spread people across the country.” 13.87m tourists visited London in the first nine months of last year, up 4.46 per cent on 2014.

https://www.ft.com/content/69a84ba2-d714-11e5-8887-98e7feb46f27

So destinations outside of London account for more than half of all UK tourism.

Given that there was a massive tourism increase after Brexit this figure can only have increased.

Tourism accounts for about 10% of UK GDP.

Since 2010 tourism has been the fastest growing sector in the UK in employment terms. Britain is forecast to have a tourism industry worth over £257 billion by 2025.
supporting almost 3.8 million jobs, which is around 11% of the total UK number.

https://www.visitbritain.org/visitor-economy-facts

Ms Yates said that Germans, Americans and a growing population of Chinese tourists were among the country’s best explorers, compared with more London-centric visitors from France. Campaigns have been launched in China, America, the Netherlands and Germany to promote tourism to the northern and south-western parts of Britain.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

No, I doubt we'll see wine lakes.

Wine production by country - 2014 (tonnes)

1.Italy 4,796.600
2.Spain 4,607,850
3.France 4,293,466
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67. United Kingdom 425

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wine-producing_countries


I'm glad you get all excited about our wine 'industry' in the wake of brexit and your rekindled patriotism , but let's be honest here, it is and always will be a niche product, overpriced due to lack of scale and in general of low quality. We just don't have the climate nor the soils to produce decent wines. And 0.2 degree here or there due to climate change won't make a jot of difference.

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I merely pointed out that the UK wine industry is expanding.
The proof is there in earlier links.
TBH I don't much care about the UK wine industry - and I'm certainly not "excited" whether as a result of Brexit or anything else.
But why must you insist upon denigrating Great Britain?
When it is, as now, unfounded THAT I object to.

As for the "generally of low quality" bit, see these:

British wines collected 120 medals in the International Wine Challenge 2016

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3581859/English-bubbly-toast-world-Champagnes-UK-grown-reds-help-Britain-win-record-medal-haul-international-wine-awards.html

English sparkling wine beats champagne in Paris blind tasting

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/20/english-sparkling-wine-beats-champagne-in-paris-blind-tasting/

English wine sparkles abroad as quality wins awards Producers expect exports to increase tenfold to 2.5m bottles by 2020

https://www.ft.com/content/28894d82-cea9-11e6-b8ce-b9c03770f8b1

Not bad for your so-called "generally low quality" is it, Mayo?
Now kindly stop wrongly talking down Britain and British produce.

setmefree2

Sapphire wrote: »

I haven't sampled Cava myself

Let me recommend

setmefree2

always_sunny wrote: »

Actually nothing to do with cup-half-empty" remainer; I am an EU national and therefore I am neither.

An EU national who thinks Britain has nothing to offer outside London - bit like saying there is nothing to see in the States outside New York...or France has nothing to offer outside of Paris....a tad ignorant, don't you think? Or are you just a troll?

mayonnaise

You made a bit of a mistake revealing you're an EU national, always_sunny.
I'm afraid all your future contributions will be dismissed by the Ultras on this forum as merely those of an EU national, as opposed to a Great British (capital G) National.