If we vote for Brexit what happens

A_Medium_Size_Jock

always_sunny wrote: »

Actually nothing to do with cup-half-empty" remainer; I am an EU national and therefore I am neither. Your post is just defensive, so a similar skepticism about your narrow-minded POV. Even based on your link by ONS

"Overseas residents made 9.2 million visits to the UK in the 3 months to December 2016. This was 6% higher than the same 3 months in 2015. The amount spent on these visits was unchanged at £5.3 billion."

Then also says:

"UK residents made 14.6 million visits abroad in the 3 months to December 2016, an increase of 8% compared with the same period in 2015. "

You can see that UK residents go abroad in bigger numbers than Overseas residents come here. Why?
And similarly that Travel Alliance research shows that London attracts the biggest crowds, this fairly known as a fact even pre-Brexit (Brexit in this regard of the argument is irrelevant, perhaps a weaker £ attracts tourist from abroad, that's about it).

The fact that to date, locations in the UK beside London are not a top destination is a reality.
Tourism/Hospitality bodies are concerned about the impact of curbing migration may have on the industry given the shortages for a long time.

I understand you may think that 'Brexit' will fix everything and it's happening so there is no much point talking about anything but after 'Brexit' things won't magically be resolved.

Defensive my arris ............ you point-blank refuse to accept fact.
As I say in other threads, it's called reality.
An EU national eh?
So not at all biased then - as your posts repeatedly demonstrate.
I'm sorry that your EU-centric scepticism won't let you look past the headlines but you could at least attempt to look as if you try to.


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The amount spent on these visits was unchanged at £5.3 billion."

Anything to do with the exchange rate, would you think? Since for them everything in the UK is now cheaper? Also see below.

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UK residents made 14.6 million visits abroad in the 3 months to December 2016, an increase of 8% compared with the same period in 2015.

Ah, so you think that Europeans want to come to the UK and make the most of our weather in autumn or winter?
Look at the September statistics when 10.7 million visited in three months.
In our summer.
And why so many Brits go abroad is simple (we've been through this, but hey ho). It is cheap and Brits are (relatively) wealthy.
This is, as said before, changing - to the benefit of the UK economy.

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And similarly that Travel Alliance research shows that London attracts the biggest crowds

The biggest - but still not even a quarter of all UK tourism. Stop trying to say there's little outside London.
Oh and BTW, each country's capital is normally one of the major centres for their own tourism.
The UK is no different.

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Tourism/Hospitality bodies are concerned about the impact of curbing migration may have on the industry given the shortages for a long time.

On the contrary;

Official figures showed there were 37.3m visits to the UK in 2016, up 3% on the previous year and the highest since records began in 1961.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/feb/17/fall-in-pound-after-brexit-vote-uk-break-overseas-visitors-record-ons-north-american-tourists

VisitBritain is gearing up to host its largest ever global tourism trade event to promote destination Britain to the world.

https://www.visitbritain.org/uk-tourism-industry-gathers-sell-destination-britain-world

London - The devaluation of the pound following the Brexit vote last year may have shaken many, but it did have one positive effect - an influx in tourists and visitor spend. The latest data from tax free shopping service Global Blue, indicates tourist spend soared 14 percent in 2016 in comparison 2015.

https://fashionunited.uk/news/business/brexit-to-continue-boosting-tourist-spend-in-the-uk-throughout-2017/2017012023242

You want more?
There's lots.

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I understand you may think that 'Brexit' will fix everything and it's happening so there is no much point talking about anything but after 'Brexit' things won't magically be resolved

This is where your POV really falls down.
Because I have said many times that not all will go well and that I expect some difficulties.
As I say earlier though, I prefer realism to your brand of fatalism.
It is patently obvious to any reader of your posts just how deeply Brexit pains you, as an EU citizen.
But all you are doing is exemplifying the choice of the British voters with your negativity.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

Perhaps once Britain has cast of the shackles of the EU the Government could change some of the regulations, subsidies and taxes that are surely holding back the rapid expansion of the British wine industry.

The British wine industry is already expanding, did you not even bother trying to find out?

If nothing else, I doubt that we will see the wine lakes caused by EU incompetence.
Or the butter mountains, come to that.

mrginge

mayonnaise wrote: »

I'd rather spend a weekend in our utility room than a weekend in Hull.

One suspects the people of hull would rather you did too.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Holland and the Dutch parliament are already showing some support for British suggestions regarding trade.

"Any restriction on free trade with Britain would inevitably be at the cost of Dutch exports, prosperity and employment," it said.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-netherlands-idUKKBN16S17A?il=0

Thrugelmir

always_sunny wrote: »

It is pretty factual that beside London, the rest of the UK does not attract much tourism.

Pretty much 50% so a significant sum.

The_Last_Username

Originally Posted by always_sunny It is pretty factual that beside London, the rest of the UK does not attract much tourism.

Wrong.
From the Tourismalliance link posted earlier, and total tourist spend:
London £25,484 million
Whole UK £96,724 million

Since when has three-quarters (give or take) been "not much"?

davomcdave

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Holland and the Dutch parliament are already showing some support for British suggestions regarding trade.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-netherlands-idUKKBN16S17A?il=0

1 down, 27 to go.

kabayiri

mrginge wrote: »

One suspects the people of hull would rather you did too.

Hull is alright I reckon.

There's a lot of history in both Hull and Liverpool. It's a great place if you like fountains

I don't understand why we have to talk down places in the UK.

mayonnaise

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

The British wine industry is already expanding, did you not even bother trying to find out? If nothing else, I doubt that we will see the wine lakes caused by EU incompetence.

No, I doubt we'll see wine lakes.

Wine production by country - 2014 (tonnes)

1.Italy 4,796.600
2.Spain 4,607,850
3.France 4,293,466
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67. United Kingdom 425

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wine-producing_countries


I'm glad you get all excited about our wine 'industry' in the wake of brexit and your rekindled patriotism , but let's be honest here, it is and always will be a niche product, overpriced due to lack of scale and in general of low quality. We just don't have the climate nor the soils to produce decent wines. And 0.2 degree here or there due to climate change won't make a jot of difference.

fatbeetle

kabayiri wrote: »

Hull is alright I reckon.

There's a lot of history in both Hull and Liverpool. It's a great place if you like fountains

I don't understand why we have to talk down places in the UK.

England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality. In left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman

- George Orwell, 1941