If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

Good news from June.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/06/uk-tourists-face-mobile-phone-roaming-charges-post-brexit-paper-says
This has been a hard fought campaign against strong opposition from the Telecoms. I applaud this positive move by the EU.
I am sure Mrs May will fight hard for Britain consumers to continues to benefit from this EU rule.

another post wishing harm to the people of the UK and celebrating the EU offical dirty tricks committee.

kabayiri

Honestly, if another EU country (eg Greece) either chose or felt compelled to leave the EU, I would hope we would continue to encourage a good trading relationship with that country.

It's more than good economics. It's about respecting the wishes of another sovereign state. The people of Greece/Spain/Italy/Poland etc etc, they all must believe that they are in control of their own destiny.

Herzlos

Why would an EU ban on something apply to somewhere that isn't in the EU? I don't think they were proposing a ban on roaming charges for non-EU visitors.

Conrad wrote: »

This 'logic' implies they all know of these untapped customers in the EU but are ignoring them

The 'logic' is simply that it'll be easier to trade from within a free trading zone than from the outside. But I'm pretty sure you already know that.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

The 'logic' is simply that it'll be easier to trade from within a free trading zone than from the outside. But I'm pretty sure you already know that.

For multinational companies yes. As they have the infrastructure. For smaller companies exporting is a totally different matter. 95% of UK companies don't export at all. Breaking into established markets takes far more than just a free trading zone.

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

Why would an EU ban on something apply to somewhere that isn't in the EU? I don't think they were proposing a ban on roaming charges for non-EU visitors.



The 'logic' is simply that it'll be easier to trade from within a free trading zone than from the outside. But I'm pretty sure you already know that.

if it is easy to trade within the EU, why are countries with large unemployment not already doing it?
why wait until brexit takes effect.

you are allowing your fanaticism warping all sense and judgement

BobQ

davomcdave wrote: »

The ONS data:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personalandhouseholdfinances/incomeandwealth/bulletins/theeffectsoftaxesandbenefitsonhouseholdincome/financialyearending2015

Inequality rose under Major and Blair and has fallen more recently under the current Tory government.

According to the document you quoted (Section 7) The Gini Coefficient rose sharply from 1979 to 1992 (Thatcher) to a peek of 55.3 in 1993 (under Major) from which it has gradually declined. At no point in the 1997- 2010 (Blair/Brown) period did it rise above that 1993 peak and it has continued that fall under the Coalition and current Government. I grant you that it was a very gradual decline from 1993 and has fallen to 1985 levels since 2013.

But

Crash_Over

Before the referendum the EU-funded PricewaterhouseCoopers wrote the infamous CBI report claiming Brexit would cause a “serious economic shock”, costing £100 billion and 1 million jobs. Today they have performed a screeching u-turn, now claiming Brexit will lead Britain into an economic boom. In March last year, PwC thought a Leave vote would cause a drop in UK living standards, GDP and employment and warned GDP growth “could be seriously reduced — and possibly be as low as zero in 2017 or 2018.” Today, PwC are forecasting the opposite: they now think Britain will enjoy GDP growth faster than any other major advanced economy in the world over the next three decades. They say GDP growth will outstrip the US, Canada, France and Germany with average annual rate of 1.9%.

Another day, another reminder of how the remainers got it so wrong.

gfplux

Herzlos wrote: »

Why would an EU ban on something apply to somewhere that isn't in the EU? I don't think they were proposing a ban on roaming charges for non-EU visitors.



The 'logic' is simply that it'll be easier to trade from within a free trading zone than from the outside. But I'm pretty sure you already know that.

Forgive me if I misunderstood your understanding of the new tariff.

If you live in an EU Country and have a mobile phone contract and travel to another EU Country for the last 1 or 2 years there has been a cap imposed by the EU on how much YOUR provider could charge for Data, SMS and calls.
In June of 2017 this EU negotiated (with gentle threats to the Telecom providers) will result in the charges you pay at home will be the SAME for data, SMS and calls when you travel to another EU Country.
British travelers should hope that in the leaving negotiations MRS May will insist this benefit is retained by Britain.

Herzlos

That's correct (as far as I understand it). If you are in an EU country, and have a mobile phone, the charges will be the same wherever you are in the EU.

If you're not an EU country, then there's no such deal; you'll be at the mercy of your phone provider whenever you cross the border. Just like the good old days!

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

That's correct (as far as I understand it). If you are in an EU country, and have a mobile phone, the charges will be the same wherever you are in the EU.

If you're not an EU country, then there's no such deal; you'll be at the mercy of your phone provider whenever you cross the border. Just like the good old days!

Wow, this changes everything!


So glad I am not an Australian having to suffer such injustices as phone call charges, phew, back to the EU it is, cap in hand.